AMD teases new Big Navi Graphis card and Ryzen 9 5900X combo

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Undying:

Guru3d review showed 3080 gears 5 at 76fps not 81fps.
I believe the chart shows the highest reported FPS for the 3080. Hence it is using varying reviews. Also seems missed COD MW. 3080 does 77fps and AMD shown 88 at 4K
ViperAnaf:

the benchmarks they presented showed its 10% slower than RTX 3080 (which means its probably less).... I dont know if they got any RT acceleration but since it could be their first card with it its probably much much behind the current RTX cards.... Bottom line - over hyped and nothing impressive here....
a) Who hyped the cards? AMD hasn't said anything to hype them like Nvidia did. b) You need to go back to primary school and learn to calculate %. Where the RX6000 is 10% slower than the 3080? Only gamer is GoW5 on 2 out of 4 sites. (Guru3d has it a 76fps). https://www.linkpicture.com/q/Radeon-RX-6000-Performance-1.png
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Goiur:

Nope, they said nothing about it... just 6000 series. edit: Lisa held the "big navi", but the performance demo they showed said nothing about exact card.
Overhyping leads to disappointing , I like AMD but in the gpu market NVidia is the leader . If AMD had something that can touch the 3090 they would be happily showing it by now to The world To stop potential customers going to the green team trust me . Coming close to 3080 is a reasonable and respectable achievement why are people having unrealistic expectations is beyond me .
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ZXRaziel:

Overhyping leads to disappointing , I like AMD but in the gpu market NVidia is the leader . If AMD had something that can touch the 3090 they would be happily showing it by now to The world To stop potential customers going to the green team trust me . Coming close to 3080 is a reasonable and respectable achievement why are people having unrealistic expectations is beyond me .
I doubt the Titan I mean 3090 is on their hit list. It's the 3080 that most care about. That and the 3070.
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suty455:

Do you really expect them to show their hand in a preview, how about this that was the lowest tier card, how would that work in your world?
Why not ? NVidia is already out there , nothing to loose by showing the best performing card . I am actually surprised by how honest and bs free this announcement was this time . Only the fanboys refuse to see what’s coming . Even NVidia knew what to expect that is why they have adjusted the prices so they can compete , think about it .
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ZXRaziel:

Why not ? NVidia is already out there , nothing to loose by showing the best performing card . I am actually surprised by how honest and bs free this announcement was this time . Only the fanboys refuse to see what’s coming . Even NVidia knew what to expect that is why they have adjusted the prices so they can compete , think about it .
3 seconds of Borderlands 3 and a couple of FPS. It just doesn't seem top tier worthy. Who knows.
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theoneofgod:

I doubt the Titan I mean 3090 is on their hit list. It's the 3080 that most care about. That and the 3070.
100% agree with you , they want to take customers from 3080 and 3070 , there is not much money in the Halo products like the 3090.
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Fediuld:

I believe the chart shows the highest reported FPS for the 3080. Hence it is using varying reviews. Also seems missed COD MW. 3080 does 77fps and AMD shown 88 at 4K a) Who hyped the cards? AMD hasn't said anything to hype them like Nvidia did. b) You need to go back to primary school and learn to calculate %. Where the RX6000 is 10% slower than the 3080? Only gamer is GoW5 on 2 out of 4 sites. (Guru3d has it a 76fps). https://www.linkpicture.com/q/Radeon-RX-6000-Performance-1.png
Where are you getting 77 from for 3080 in COD? Every youtube review I've found shows 85-100 with RTX on. [youtube=KfYlN7w4XvY] for example. We don't even know if their MW on the 6000 series enabled RT. Also Guru3d gets higher FPS in Borderlands 3 than both those numbers, TPU gets higher numbers in Gears. Idk, need to wait for benchmarks - could be comparing different scenes, settings, the CPU is going to matter at some level - especially when these results are within like 3-4 fps, etc.
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ZXRaziel:

Overhyping leads to disappointing , I like AMD but in the gpu market NVidia is the leader . If AMD had something that can touch the 3090 they would be happily showing it by now to The world To stop potential customers going to the green team trust me . Coming close to 3080 is a reasonable and respectable achievement why are people having unrealistic expectations is beyond me .
Just facts. Lisa held "big navi", they showed 6000 series so we dont know what they showed or the state of the drivers or the clocks it was running, etc.. So not hype, just what we saw. I would be happy with a 3080 contender (¿-0 to -10% ?) 200€ cheaper. I dont give a F about the 1% crazy enthusiast *wasting* 2 grand on a gpu (good for them if they can lol).
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Goiur:

Nope, they said nothing about it... just 6000 series. edit: Lisa held the "big navi", but the performance demo they showed said nothing about exact card.
She clearly said that this is the most powerful GPU they have ever made, and here are the numbers, paraphrasing ofcourse. No one is denying that optimizations will be made, but for now it is pretty safe to say that this was their top gaming card, around 10% slower than 3080.
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craycray:

She clearly said that this is the most powerful GPU they have ever made, and here are the numbers, paraphrasing ofcourse.
Again... that was the one she was holding in her hands. On the demo was a 6000 series card. We dont know which one. Want to think its the 6900, ok, want to think its the 6700, ok... because we dont know.
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ok amd , take my money 🙂
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Goiur:

Again... that was the one she was holding in her hands. On the demo was a 6000 series card. We dont know which. Want to think its the 6900, ok, want to think its the 6700, ok... because we dont know.
Believe what you want my man, I am not here to change your mind. You made a point, and I made my point, let 28th Oct surprise us. No matter how much I want AMD to beat nVidia at this point, I know that it is not going to happen at launch across all games. Some games AMD will win, but most of them, nVidia will win. If you want to know which games AMD will win at, look at the games where 5700xt beat 2070 Super.
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craycray:

Believe what you want my man, I am not here to change your mind. You made a point, and I made my point, let 28th Oct surprise us. No matter how much I want AMD to beat nVidia at this point, I know that it is not going to happen at launch across all games. Some games AMD will win, but most of them, nVidia will win.
IF AMD wins in SOME games, as you say.... thats more than expected and we got a 3080 contender. Good enough if you look where they come from 2-3 years ago.
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Price and availability will play the big role here. If one can buy the gpu thats almost as fast available now at lower price and has more vram its a no brainer. Amd also plays the efficiency game here for the first time using less power than competing nvidia card. And guys remember that we didnt see the 1440p benchmarks. That could be interesting.
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ZXRaziel:

Why not ? NVidia is already out there , nothing to loose by showing the best performing card . I am actually surprised by how honest and bs free this announcement was this time . Only the fanboys refuse to see what’s coming . Even NVidia knew what to expect that is why they have adjusted the prices so they can compete , think about it .
Well because it would be commercial suicide and frankly I dont think that Lady is a dummy, can you just imagine it....come look at our worldwide launch of our premium desktop GPU oh btw we showed the best of it a Month ago so heres the bottom end now please all buy one! Yes Nvidia does indeed know whats coming, and I think they are worried.
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I am not here to argue , let’s just say we will know soon , but I am prepared to bet that the performance shown was the top card ,;)
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Even if it is the top card we need to see ray tracing performance as well.
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theoneofgod:

Even if it is the top card we need to see ray tracing performance as well.
Software features and raytracing. Rdlss? There is also big driver update coming at the end of the year.
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if she felt it was fine to show performance like this, the price reveal must be the actual fun of the party or its just a desperate attempt at making people wait before getting that 3080, who knows cant wait to see it, if its the same price I guess it comes down to more RT vs more vram, which is a far better situation than what vega64/r7 gave us
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Denial:

Where are you getting 77 from for 3080 in COD? Every youtube review I've found shows 85-100 with RTX on. [youtube=KfYlN7w4XvY] for example. We don't even know if their MW on the 6000 series enabled RT. Also Guru3d gets higher FPS in Borderlands 3 than both those numbers, TPU gets higher numbers in Gears. Idk, need to wait for benchmarks - could be comparing different scenes, settings, the CPU is going to matter at some level - especially when these results are within like 3-4 fps, etc.
3080 does 85fps with RTX AND DLSS @1080p Native 4K, NO DLSS is 77. https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/2NDWAcLfATdrf3XaYtrKZh-970-80.png And you don't see wrong. The RX6?000 is as fast on COD as the 3090 at 4K

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