AMD Steamroller on track for 2013 launch
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IcE
When are they going to roll out Pile Driver based APU's with GCN onboard graphics? That would be a real bank earner for them.
BLEH!
Good for AMD. Gunna build a mini-ITX build using one of their APUs soon.
-Tj-
Now this will be the real deal, esp. those single threaded improvements. 🙂
PNeV
I too would like one of their Kaveri APU's, would make an awesome PC to put under my TV!
mohiuddin
When will steamroller come for desktop?
deltatux
AMD's only problem in their Bulldozer designs have been single threaded performance the entire time. Once they solve it, the FX would be a true competitor to Intel's offerings, assuming Intel doesn't figure out a new way to leap frog AMD's performance.
The FX's multithreaded performance is known to be very good, so all there is left is the single threaded performance.
They also need a new chipset to support PCIe 3.0, I know we don't need PCIe 3.0 but there's a lot of marketing value to it because most mainstream people only look at the name of the technology, if it looks new, they'll buy it. Maybe the new chipset could support a newer HyperTransport speed too.
deltatux
Neo Cyrus
IPlayNaked
Taint3dBulge
deltatux
Chillin
This is just an April Fools.
Noisiv
Single threaded and Power Consumption.
I know plenty of you guys think that power consumption is overrated, but that alone is what gets you in or out of the laptops, you know... that thing that gets you lots of money
DSparil
I really look forward to Steamrollers desktop release! If they deliver on the promised performance benefit, it would be a great leap from Bulldozer. Probably wouldn't be worth it to go from Piledriver to Steamroller though.
Way too optimistic? Not at all and I completely agree with Deltatux. Where AMD has been hurting is single threaded performance, and once they shore up those issues, AMD will be golden. You don't think Steamroller will "catch up" to Ivy Bridge? News flash, Piledriver has already done that! In fact, as Delta mentioned, Ivy Bridge i5's are already being beaten in many benches with Vishera chips that cost less $$. Haswell may be another story, but we'll see.
lol, I hope not!
deltatux
Neo Cyrus
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=551
4GHz 8 cores vs 3.5GHz 4 cores, as you can see, for me AMD is not an option, especially since I overclock.
You have no idea how much I wish I'm wrong and AMD come through with some miracle, I'm just saying don't keep your hopes up. I would be shocked if AMD deliver half of what they promise.
Which is the most important and precisely what I'm talking about. It's so behind that even with twice as many "cores" at a significantly higher frequency it can't beat Intel's offerings.
It seems people want to plug their ears and not listen, pretty much everything is still single and dual threaded. Ever had an installation take a long time even on an SSD and wondered why it took so long? Single thread processing limit. People see 12% of the CPU being used and don't realize it's 1 thread maxed out and its time slices distributed among all 8 threads; it's still limited by the maximum of a single thread.
The only way they'll achieve a 30% increase in performance is with increased clock speeds as well. It will not be anywhere near 30% faster clock for clock. I would be surprised if it was even 15%. Steamroller will still have only one FPU per module, they're still half-assed cores. They will have subpar performance in most programs which are dual threaded, they will have abysmal performance in single threaded programs and AMD will cherry pick artificial benchmarks and anomalies to make it look like an adequate product for the price. AMD fans will vouch that these FX chips are excellent, it may server their purposes, but I prefer the highest single thread performance I can get.
In what? Some niche market that exists in someone's imagination? For my purposes, high performance per thread, and maximum performance in the $250-$400 range the only option has been Intel.
You make it sound like I'm happy with this monopoly, at the very least the next chip I get is going to cost me $350 before taxes just because there is no competition. When overclocking is taken into account the gap increased even further. Even if AMD did manage to offer something in that price/performance range that gave overall the same performance, that would still be with 8 threads, I'm bound by too many single threaded programs.
Let's see some of those benchmarks... the most powerful AMD chip that exists versus the standard 3770K - deltatux
Neo Cyrus
Pill Monster
@Neo- why are you so mad at AMD?
Neo Cyrus
Yxskaft
With the next-gen consoles having eight cores, I definitely think AMD's current and future eight core CPUs will gain some steam once the developers adapt their engines