AMD Socket AM4 Coming Up Inevitably usable for Zen
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Dazz
To be expected for a completely new architecture really.
vbetts
Moderator
Good!
They need to get off AM3 and their ancient memory controllers!
Darkest
Lets hope they start updating their sockets at least every couple of years from now on. They stuck with AM3 for far longer than they should have.
Fox2232
LimitbreakOr
So.... No 8 core? 10 core? I really hope that they'll make a high end 10 core zen fx chip. I love core counts! I want an unlocked xeon damnit!
Kaill
Hopefuly that means a true 8 core processor.
nz3777
I have givin-up hope on Amd making a comeback on cpu performance Intel is just way to ahead for them to catch-up at this point in time ie they waited too long! ......In my opinion they schould stick with making Mid-range Apus, they do really well my kids machine just amazed the hell out of me, for sure it feels faster then my 6-core Fx.
-Tj-
I've read its going to be released @ March 2016..
Source:Kitguru
waltc3
One of the hidden costs going Intel is not just that the cpu's are more expensive, but also the motherboards. Intel changes sockets like I change socks...;) (Speaking as someone who actually bought a Pentium on a card that went into a slot--instead of a socket...!) AMD's AM3+ has been amazingly resilient, and companies like MSI are still introducing new motherboards based on it. But I certainly agree it's high-time that AMD **it or get off the pot...;)
What I find most interesting about Zen is that AMD projects a 40% IPC improvement over its current FX cpus--an improvement that is 100% architecture related and doesn't depend on a process shrink. I might find that a bit too much to swallow except for the explanation--Zen will be the first AMD cpus to use SMT...! It will easily do for AMD's cpus what it did for Intel's--that's what makes the 40% claim believable. We shall see in only a few more months...
Darkest
TyrantofJustice
I hope Zen is good i would love to go back to the red team even though i love my intel last couple of builds
Dch48
So, the desktop Zen CPU's will require a whole new motherboard and memory setup. For me, that means no upgrade until my current system just can't handle newer games any more, which might not be for another 4 or 5 years. That has always been my procedure anyway. I don't care about 60fps at max settings. If I can play the game fluidly (which means at a steady 25-30 fps) at low settings, that's good enough.
I'm happy to see that AMD is upping their game and hope that it results in a healthy rebound for them. I see no reason why it won't. I just won't be jumping on board for a while.
Turanis
Unfortunatelly for you nobody cares about what fps you want in today games and what you expect from the old systems.
If you dont care about performance stay with your old system.Some of us wants a real performance and a real competition.
Its a new architecture CPU ofc need a new platform,no hard to understand.
EspHack
people say intel is too far ahead, I actually think its the best moment for amd, intel is just idling now, they are focused on mobile and efficiency whatever, sandy bridge is still going strong 4 generations later there's plenty of people who see no need to upgrade and with good reasons, just see how laptops are now challenging desktops in performance, to me that's not laptops getting faster, its just desktops being stuck, while intel refines the tech so it can use less and less power, essentially fitting what was a desktop cpu in 2012 in terms of performance on a laptop today, now AMD can come and use the 14nm process to build up some muscle which is what we want here, and I really hope they succeed, we need intel to come up with another core 2 series in desperation :P
icedman
I'm really hoping this cpu is as good as they it is because if not I doubt amd will be around long in cpu's. Well even if the new fx equivalent bombs I think apus will always have a place so long as the gpu stays strong.
nz3777
No offence but I would love to believe Zen is going to be a winner but...When I see it with my own eyes its like almost to good to be true at this point in time.Or hopefully not another fluke like Bulldozer was-All the hype and in the end Nothing! I am not holding my breathe to be honest.
EspHack
waltc3
Darkest
Your buying hardware in the 90's has absolutely nothing to do with 2015, going into 2016.
I was speaking in particular about your comment on Intel motherboards being expensive, which is why I bolded that specific part of your post. It really isn't true, it hasn't been for a very long time. The performance hasn't been there, I specifically gave an example of my needs. AMD has nothing on par with the 3570K for my uses, which is 3 + years old at this point. The same stands for the majority of users. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Zen succeed. I'd buy an AMD CPU in a heartbeat if it offered the performance I wanted. I've owned countless AMD CPU's in the past, from Athlon Thunderbirds and Durons (Remember the pencil trick?), up to XP's and A64's. It's about time we saw a revival for AMD.
Fender178
I am hoping that Zen will be CPU that turns them around. They need a 4,6, and an 8 core CPU with good single threaded performance and good GHZ per core performance. AMD hasn't had a CPU to answer Intel since the AMD Athlon 64 and I am really hoping that Zen is the one to finally answer Intel's long call.
Also It is about time that they went away from the aging AM3 socket. Also I said this before that AMD needs to based their Zen CPUs off of the Athlon 64 just like Intel based all of the core based CPUs off of the Pentium3.