Those 12/16 cored threadrippers based in 5000 series should be great for next gen games due to superior platform and more memory channels. I wonder how they'll do against current 5900x/5950x and the new 5800x3d.

So it would appear that TRX40 customers will be getting screwed. Awesome AMD.

Ojref:

So it would appear that TRX40 customers will be getting screwed. Awesome AMD.

HEDT on Intel side cared for customers much? What upgrade path last Intel sockets really offered? Maybe you think I favour AMD for taking their side. I am taking OUR side, the customers, prosumers.. Both AMD and Intel have their own agenda and will release products to make money, that the ultimate goal. And establish their brand and position on server, data centers and desktop market.

anticupidon:

HEDT on Intel side cared for customers much? What upgrade path last Intel sockets really offered? Maybe you think I favour AMD for taking their side. I am taking OUR side, the customers, prosumers.. Both AMD and Intel have their own agenda and will release products to make money, that the ultimate goal. And establish their brand and position on server, data centers and desktop market.

Hey our competitor sucks, we should suck too 🙂

Ojref:

So it would appear that TRX40 customers will be getting screwed. Awesome AMD.

uh, what? These are TRX4 cpus.

I think it's likely a handful of things took place with TRX40. It's a niche product, and probably not enough people bought them. People either bought them for their intended use, or just for fun. The 5950X is not tremendously faster than the 3950X in full load scenarios. It's increased ST perf most meaningfully translates into faster gaming and Photoshop. For the people that bought TRX40 for something genuinely needing the cores, Zen3 is probably just not a worthwhile upgrade. Especially considering the price bump between Zen2-Zen3. Those people would probably benefit from and could afford moving to TRX80 for the increased memory bandwidth to go along with Zen 3. Even if it was more about the PCIe lanes, then still no huge benefit to a TRX40 Zen3 CPU. The people that are "screwed" basically bought a niche product for the lulz. You either have the money to buy something you need, or you have/had more money than sense. The latter is not a very big market to address.

the new thredrippers 5k pro will be tor the trx80, the non pro (if released) will be for the trx40. After that, bye bye. Next thredrippers, if any, will be with ddr5 like epyc.

As far as we've been told so far, non-pro ThreadRippers are dead in the water for now. And the Pro versions are really not a good "upgrade" over the non-pro for enthusiast/HEDT builds.

Astyanax:

These are TRX4 cpus.

No, they are not. The PRO lineup is WRX8, which is required for the full PCIe lanes and octa-channel memory. These are true workstation chips. The non-pro enthusiast chips is whats interesting for most people frequenting these posts, but unfortunately we don't even know if they'll still exist, because it collides a bit with the 5950X already.

I have several workstations based on TRX40 that won't see upgrades that were promised by AMD when they switched up sockets, for *reasons*. That represents an investment that will now be devalued. Yes, the Threadrippers as a whole really underdelivered on the gaming side, especially in single-threaded workloads under DX11 and 12, but my use cases were more in CAD/CAM and engineering data case analysis. Oh well I suppose.

itpro:

Those 12/16 cored threadrippers based in 5000 series should be great for next gen games due to superior platform and more memory channels. I wonder how they'll do against current 5900x/5950x and the new 5800x3d.

Not if the cores are split up into a bunch of chiplets. Memory bandwidth really only matters for GPUs, APUs, or when you've run out of VRAM. 2 channels of RAM with high clock speeds is good enough for CPU-only gaming purposes.