AMD Ryzen 8000 CPUs likely to get same number of cores, but a lot faster
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Crazy Joe
The article is a bit confusing. Is Ryzen 8000 now coming 2023H2 or 2024H2? The first part of the article seems to indicate that it is 2024H2, but the last paragraph hints at 2023H2. The roadmap image also places the ZEN5 boxes before the 2024 endpoint of the arrow, so that adds to the confusion as well.
I think its probably 2024 as 2023H2 would mean that the Ryzen 7000 series only lasted about 1 year, which seems a bit on the short side. Ryzen 5000 lasted 1 year and 10 months, and though Ryzen 3000 lasted 1 year and 3 months and Ryzen 2000 lasted 1 year and 3 months, launching at the end of Q4 2023 would not be out of the ordinary for AMD, but a release in 2024 seems more likely. Though H2 seems a bit too far out looking at AMD's releasing strategy. Q1 2024 seems to be more in line with their release strategy (especially if the process technology they want to use has been available since end 2022).
Maddness
The article states that if all things went to plan they would Introduce, but nothing about releasing the hardware until 2024.
Yogi
So have we reached a stagnation point in core counts like with 4 cores in the 2010's.
Waiting on software devs to catch up and the hardware devs extorting consumers for the high core count silicon they do make
Undying
Thats fine the amount of cores are enough games still prefer faster cores and more cache anyway. I just hope intel will be competitive enough with 14gen so prices wont be higher.
Krizby
hopefully ryzen 8000 get more robust MC that won't kill itself running advertised 6000MT DDR5 LOL
vestibule
Remember the old days when software was galloping ahead of hardware and you pretty much had to build a new PC every 12 months just to keep up.
Remember all those people who purchased Doom 3 and then could not run it.
Lol. Those where the days. 🙂
Yogi
You mean before stack overflow and it's ilk when programmers actually needed to know what they were doing...:p
cucaulay malkin
well, at least the usual hype will be cut short. Last year I still saw naive people expecting ryzen 7000 to have 12/24 config for ryzen 7.
just prepare for another +450eur 8/16 that will go against i5 14600k in games.
Undying
How do we know intel wont use same amount of p-cores and just crap amount e-cores like they did with 12 to 13gen.
If 14600k still has only 6 performance cores it will be funny.
Pryme
That happens when people believe in leaks.
cucaulay malkin
and even funnier when a person using z690 would be able to get an i5 14th gen for 300eur and beat 7800x3d with an overclock, while am5 users are still waiting for an upgrade that doesn't cost 500eur and hit 90 degrees on h150 xt in games.
schmidtbag
I don't really see consumer-grade desktop hardware ever going much past 32 threads. At such a point, you either need as many threads as your wallet can provide (so that would be professional-grade hardware or a server), or, the task is better handled by a GPU. The thing is, the rise in SaS products and GPU-accelerated desktop software seems to actually be decreasing the demand for more cores. Most individual home/office workloads don't need more than 1 or 2 threads and if they're CPU bottlenecked, it's usually by clock speed. The main benefit of consumer-grade many-core CPUs is for multitasking and so things like Excel can run a little bit faster. Otherwise, I think we're very close to hitting the limit of how many cores we actually need for desktop use.
For many tasks, it just simply doesn't make sense to add more threads (Amdahl's Law), which is why 6c/12t can get you playable framerates in just about every game, even if the game can use more than that.
Undying
Nah i'll just popin the 8700x in my b650 board and still beat that 😛
wavetrex
Most likely the upgrade I'll make.
- 5800X3D didn't feel like an upgrade to the vanilla 5800X
- 7700X again seemed like too small of a performance upgrade for huge amount of money for replacing the entire base system (cpu+mobo+ram)
- 7800X3D is nice and fast but 1st gen mobos seem to have various... issues (from glitches and performance problems to exploding CPUs... eeeek!)
I guess by the time they launch an 8800X3D all these new platform hiccups will be resolved, and with a new generation core, much, much faster than Zen3... probably close to 100% faster overall. That feels like a proper upgrade indeed !
Now.. the question is, how long is the wait until it happens...
H83
I agree completely. And for the average user, any modern quad more will be more than enough.
I`m thinking about getting a 7700 or 7700X, the one i can get cheaper, to retire my current 7600K but MB prices and issues are "scaring" me.
And the Pluton chip is also something that concerns me.
But the 13600KF is also enticing and i already saw stores selling it for a little less than 300€.
PinguX
Isn't 14th gen intel (meteor lake) using socket 1851?
Yogi
I agree, my workflow has been more or less static for the last decade as CAD software is still largely single threaded, IPC and speed improvements have kept ahead of the feature creep that's bloated the software but not as much as I'd like.
Extra cores have been nice to kick background tasks off my fastest cores (glares at Microsoft and their bullshit), but I can easily see some new softwares coming into my industry (for generative design) that will be heavily multithreaded and could require us specing baller CPUs again
cucaulay malkin
14th gen isn't meteor lake, I told you that several times over in the other tread. it's raptor lake with 20% better frequency at the same power thanks to dlvr. x3d line competitor on maistream line. supposed to be 6GHz stock and 6.5GHz OC
Undying
I think Intel delayed meteor lake.
PinguX
You told me that when?
The refresh shouldn't be called 14th gen as thats misleading
