AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Priced $450; Other CPUs to follow in Mid-April (updated)

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5800x at 300> 5800x3d at 450 easy choice
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Amd so late to the party. Who needs a 5600 now when you can get a faster 12400. Same goes for 5700X.
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Undying:

Amd so late to the party. Who needs a 5600 now when you can get a faster 12400. Same goes for 5700X.
a lot of people this isn't exactly the perf/dollar of 12400 or 12600,but it's better.
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cucaulay malkin:

5800x at 300> 5800x3d at 450 easy choice
The 5800X is usually found at 350 euros. Unless is some special promotion. If what AMD says is right, the 5800X3D will have 15% more performance in games. So by that logic, this new CPU should be around 400 euros. But then there is Alder Lake.........
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Horus-Anhur:

The 5800X is usually found at 350 euros. Unless is some special promotion. If what AMD says is right, the 5800X3D will have 15% more performance in games. So by that logic, this new CPU should be around 400 euros. But then there is Alder Lake.........
well 15% is the best case scanario on the slides take the average and you're ending up with 6-7% maybe,for 450 when 5800x is 307eur last time I checked,and it's still a bad buy considering 12400f is like 175.
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cucaulay malkin:

a lot of people this isn't exactly the perf/dollar of 12400 or 12600,but it's better.
When people ware complaining about high prices of 5600x/5800x asking for 5600 non x amd didnt care and now its to late. No one should be buying these so close to zen4.
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Undying:

Amd so late to the party. Who needs a 5600 now when you can get a faster 12400. Same goes for 5700X.
If you always want an inferior locked down intel system. But thats just my opinion.
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Undying:

When people ware complaining about high prices of 5600x/5800x asking for 5600 non x amd didnt care and now its to late. No one should be buying these so close to zen4.
yeah like people are gonna double down and get ddr5 and a new board to go amd once again get real.
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cucaulay malkin:

well 15% is the best case scanario on the slides take the average and you're ending up with 6-7% maybe,for 450 when 5800x is 307eur last time I checked,and it's still a bad buy considering 12400f is like 175.
No. It's 15% average. AMD claims there are up to 35% gains. https://imgs.search.brave.com/WrI1xVLmzOP77QtulluiIPTaobgLvV68c_SHGuIPu9I/rs:fit:1200:768:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9jZG4u/bmVvdy5pbi9uZXdz/L2ltYWdlcy91cGxv/YWRlZC8yMDIyLzAy/LzE2NDQ4MjEzOTFf/YW1kX3J5emVuXzU4/MDB4M2QuanBn
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cucaulay malkin:

yeah like people are gonna double down and get ddr5 and a new board to go amd once again get real.
well they should. 7800x or whatever its called with ddr5 will smoke 5800x3d.
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Horus-Anhur:

No. It's 15% average. AMD claims there are up to 35% gains. https://imgs.search.brave.com/WrI1xVLmzOP77QtulluiIPTaobgLvV68c_SHGuIPu9I/rs:fit:1200:768:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9jZG4u/bmVvdy5pbi9uZXdz/L2ltYWdlcy91cGxv/YWRlZC8yMDIyLzAy/LzE2NDQ4MjEzOTFf/YW1kX3J5emVuXzU4/MDB4M2QuanBn
who's testing this ? sotr at 9% and wdl at 36% ? what the actual f**k how is there a 27% difference between how this chip performs in relation to 5900 27% is like 2700x to 5800x,two architectures and a node shrink
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I would still pick the AMD solution. It's not always about the last few % to gain, 157 or 165 fps unless you earn your money with it and deadlines and stuff. Zen3 has matured, Bios' are mostly stable, plenty DDR4 to choose from, PCIe v4 still plenty. It doesn't look that evenly smooth on the other side in my perspective. My recent Intel systems since Core-i have not run as smooth as this Ryzen does. Intel has a lot to do to win me back for my own personal gaming rig.
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cucaulay malkin:

who's testing this ? sotr at 9% and wdl at 36% ? what the actual f**k how is there a 27% difference between how this chip performs in relation to 5900 27% is like 2700x to 5800x,two architectures and a node shrink
I have no idea. maybe the person that made the benchmarks has a weird writing. And the person doing the slides, couldn't read it right.....
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How about we wait for HH to tell us the truth? Rambling on about unknowns make treads a chore to read.
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that is some miracle cache to see 36% difference
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Undying:

Amd so late to the party. Who needs a 5600 now when you can get a faster 12400. Same goes for 5700X.
I don't disagree, but AMD didn't have to release anything cheaper because they kept selling everything they made. So, I guess AMD is now just trying to squeeze in a few more sales with whatever spare binned chips they have.
Undying:

When people ware complaining about high prices of 5600x/5800x asking for 5600 non x amd didnt care and now its to late. No one should be buying these so close to zen4.
Right - it's best to wait for reviews, because not only will AMD likely cut prices on the 5000 series, but the performance difference might not be worth the cost-of-entry for DDR5.
Undying:

well they should. 7800x or whatever its called with ddr5 will smoke 5800x3d.
Not necessarily. AMD seems to have reduced the memory bottleneck quite a bit with Zen3, and DDR5 currently doesn't have particularly impressive performance for what you're paying for. Personally, what I look forward to in AM5 is lower power consumption for the chipset. I'm sure AMD will have got that sorted by then. I hope...
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With the CAD dropping rapidly in the last two days for whatever reason that's $580, so they'll round it up to $600, they always do. The 5900X is going for $567 at several stores... makes it a shit choice for someone like me on a 3900X, who doesn't feel like spending a fortune on DDR5 so I want this last upgrade on AM4.
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cucaulay malkin:

that is some miracle cache to see 36% difference
I doubt AMD just slapped some 3d cache on top of a vanilla 5800x. The 5800x is 1 year and a half old there's probably other optimization going on.
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This is the perfect price if you don't want to sell too many chips. I doubt many will buy it considering Zen4 isn't that far off.
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cucaulay malkin:

that is some miracle cache to see 36% difference
When HU did their tests with CPU cache, they found little improvement when going from 12MB to 20MB. So there is definitely something with those numbers from AMD.
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