AMD Ryzen 5 1400 gaming performance leaks - analysed on YT

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#5415029
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I kinda sorta understand that Dota 2 does not generally get benched, but this guy didn't even bench Ashes, which are the two games for sure patched for Ryzen currently...........
#5415033
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How the hell is it better specifically in Tomb Raider when that is one of the games where in all reviews Ryzen was really behind Intel. (the OC version of course) And from what I saw, it does not lack behind the Intel i5 when OCed to 3,8GHz. And did he have the updated BIOS ? I thought he said that he is actually expecting the update to come. Paired with better cooler (possible better OC) and especially faster RAM, it could be a nice buy.
#5415037
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Ryzen+nvidia + dx12 in rise of the tombraider makes ryzen look bad, when using a amd gpu (witch are true dx12 cards) things change
#5415039
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Good viewing ryzen 1400 rocks.
#5415040
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How the hell is it better specifically in Tomb Raider when that is one of the games where in all reviews Ryzen was really behind Intel. (the OC version of course) And from what I saw, it does not lack behind the Intel i5 when OCed to 3,8GHz. And did he have the updated BIOS ? I thought he said that he is actually expecting the update to come. Paired with better cooler (possible better OC) and especially faster RAM, it could be a nice buy.
Is the driver he tested, the same as the one from the reviews? If not, there is the chance that NVIDIA has put some initial Ryzen optimization for it.
#5415041
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How the hell is it better specifically in Tomb Raider when that is one of the games where in all reviews Ryzen was really behind Intel. (the OC version of course) And from what I saw, it does not lack behind the Intel i5 when OCed to 3,8GHz. And did he have the updated BIOS ? I thought he said that he is actually expecting the update to come. Paired with better cooler (possible better OC) and especially faster RAM, it could be a nice buy.
A better cooler would give probably extra 100-200 MHz .
#5415042
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so os, api and games optimized for intel cpu, at least because of graphic card drivers optimized for amd...
#5415043
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Is the driver he tested, the same as the one from the reviews? If not, there is the chance that NVIDIA has put some initial Ryzen optimization for it.
You dont get it , when using a nvidia card(withc all reviewers did) and using dx12 , Ryzen performs worse , when using a amd gpu the problem is gone.
#5415045
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I counted 15 Fps at max Intel being in the lead this is a 2-way better /worse senario....Amd you get more cores/threads with hope of future optimazations to improve gaming even more/ Or you go the safe route pay a little more but get better gaming performance with Intel. 1080p Intel all the way/ anything over does not really matter anyway right?
#5415049
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I counted 15 Fps at max Intel being in the lead this is a 2-way better /worse senario....Amd you get more cores/threads with hope of future optimazations to improve gaming even more/ Or you go the safe route pay double but get better gaming performance with Intel. 1080p Intel all the way/ anything over does not really matter anyway right?
Corrected that for you.:stewpid:
#5415051
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When I do upgrade it will be with AMD. Even if Intel offers more performance per dollar (true only in a few cases now), AMD has amazingly reduced the difference to the point where I can accept it in order to help fuel competition. If the market does not reward AMD for their valiant effort in Zen, the company may be forced to give up. How many times can they come from behind in a high-stakes business like this? Then Intel will again quit trying, and several years from now we'll ALL be worse off than if they were still duking it out. Everyone has to make their own decision, and I couldn't buy the Excavator etc fiascos, but the AMD product line now has real contenders - and we need to keep them there.
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You dont get it , when using a nvidia card(withc all reviewers did) and using dx12 , Ryzen performs worse , when using a amd gpu the problem is gone.
It's not gone. Just the AMD GPU becomes the bottleneck. It's the same like testing in 1440p with Nvidia.
#5415064
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Video reviews should be globally banned by UNO.
#5415065
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Video reviews should be globally banned by UNO.
^ This
#5415066
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Hmm not what I was expecting out of a 4C/8t CPU but then maybe then there is the poor optimization of the Ryzen CPUs that are slowly being worked out. Possibly IPC of the i5 7400 was higher than the Ryzen 5 1400 and there is also the possibility of a bottleneck somewhere. I agree that we should wait for more official results from Hilbert.
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It's not gone. Just the AMD GPU becomes the bottleneck. It's the same like testing in 1440p with Nvidia.
Have you checked the you tube video?? Pretty much looks like the problem is gone not like it kicks the s..t out of intel but the gap is reduce to some 6% and also see how impressed the youtuber is with the crossfire performance of those two 480's.
#5415075
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Have you checked the you tube video?? Pretty much looks like the problem is gone not like it kicks the s..t out of intel but the gap is reduce to some 6% and also see how impressed the youtuber is with the crossfire performance of those two 480's.
Which video ? The comment I responded to, didn't have any video in it.
#5415076
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Video reviews should be globally banned by UNO.
While I share the opinion that there is a lot (A LOT) of crap benchmarks on youtube, generalizing it seems a bit strange. Are you saying when a renowned review site performs benchmarks within their high standards of quality and then decides to make a video out of the results with some footage ... those results automatically are bad/invalid/etc. ? I think you really will have to differentiate... Video is just a medium, like audio, like journals, etc. The underlying research/test can be of exceptional quality, or of bad quality.
#5415077
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When I do upgrade it will be with AMD. Even if Intel offers more performance per dollar (true only in a few cases now), AMD has amazingly reduced the difference to the point where I can accept it in order to help fuel competition
I'm convinced the Ryzen R7 is the best performance per dollar you can get right now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but even if it doesn't win to a 7700k, it's a beast of a workstation for less than half of what Intel is asking for similar.
It's not gone. Just the AMD GPU becomes the bottleneck. It's the same like testing in 1440p with Nvidia.
Ridiculous! How is a Fury or a RX480 a bottleneck at 720p with low settings, how? You throw in 2xRX480 and they even out with a 1080 in DX12 for less money...
Ryzen here is not properly utilised just look usage so i will wait for Hilbert because this guy on 1st test had gpu bottleneck 100% he didn't even tried to low resolution to see how much cpu-s are utilised but hey i guess everyone has limits, btw intel gets much more utilisation so i guess again we need some optimisation for ryzen or better distribution between cores well..
I don't think you understand how this works: If you have Vsync off and the card is free to render unlimited frames, it will go up to 100%...unless the CPU is bottlenecking the card!
NV drivers seems to have serious problem with DX12 on Ryzen systems. GTX 1060 vs RX 470 here.
And the press all used Nvidia to bench Ryzen :bang:

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