I'm getting score of 709 in cinebench. Would Ryzen 3 1300x be a downgrade to my current system? I would rather not buy high frequency memory + motherboard + CPU...

I agree with Venix. You should stick with what you've got, a Ryzen 3 isn't a worthy upgrade. An overclocked Ryzen 1400 would overall be an upgrade. If you're on a budget, I'd say the most cost effective solution would be to buy a used i7 4770K.

I very much hope they do not make any dual-core Ryzens. No need to stunt the future any more then Intel already has.

Personally, that's the problem right there. Not only is a dual-core not fine for a grandma or library PC or any PC (due to the fact of how many things are going on in the background of a modern PC) but the mentality behind "just fine" is the problem, in my opinion. The more and more people continue to say "Oh, well that person doesn't need much, so its understandable why they still produce (insert item here)" is exactly why companies go "Oh, so many people still use (insert item here), might as well not fully support anything else" This is why i really hope AMD is done with dual-core processors. If they aren't made, and if intel follows along, then maybe, just maybe, developers won't say "Well, 90% of our users only use dual-core, so lets not worry about letting it use, efficiently, anything more then 2 cores"

First of all, there are loads of assumptions here. We're at an age where we're browsing the Internet on our cell phones and editing documents on our tablets. A modern desktop dual-core is vastly more powerful than whatever a mobile phone has to offer, so it will do fine. You talk as if background tasks in a modern PC warrant a quad-core. They do not. They never will. Second of all, not everyone who's buying a CPU runs Windows or is browsing the Internet, editing documents, or playing games. It would be lovely to have a dual-core with a sufficient GPU for a media PC - the lower cost, along with lower power consumption would still realize a PC strong enough to handle video content. Another use would be a storage server - if all you do is transfer files over a LAN, even with 10Gbit Ethernet, why would you need anything more than a low-power dual-core? Why would we not have available dual-core processors half the price of this? I don't see the point. It's not like Intel's ~$45 Celeron dual-cores stifle technology, do they? I'm glad the option exists - my media PC is currently running a Pentium G3220 and that's doing way more than fine for what uses the PC sees. Some software only runs on x86 which is why it is still useful to have a low-power x86 platform that runs such. x86 emulation on ARM has been claimed by Microsoft to be almost as good as the real thing - but we still have not seen the fruit of that labor. Thus, I hope you mean dual-cores ala i3 - those have to die with the price points Intel have been peddling them at.

Yeah, Intel has always categorically refused to send out i3 procs for review. Can't help it. But I agree on the IGP, it's a bit of a miss in the segment.

You're a reputable hardware review website though. Don't see what they got to lose... unless they expect to be unfair towards the competition. Anyhow, great and thorough review (as always). Can't wait for the A-series to be released!

I may buy/build a cheap Ryzen setup just to do it. My i7 isn't getting replaced yet though. Maybe Bristol...

I agree remove x86 dual - core it is power usage is not significant for large compute workloads. 32 core with nice ram disk & tb ssds is the future. For everything else ARM is better. then even library should be folding a protien or some shit lol you could host a battlefield 1942 mod with a business line stream pandora and twitch shit for trendy mofos wtf. gg all while cryptomining and compiling a kernel. fantasy land tho folks cuz they still give you single channel ram on your laptop. This 1300x looks good for trying the new the memory controller compared to my machine thanks for benchmark!

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I agree remove x86 dual - core it is power usage is not significant for large compute workloads. 32 core with nice ram disk & tb ssds is the future. For everything else ARM is better. then even library should be folding a protien or some crap lol you could host a battlefield 1942 mod with a business line stream pandora and twitch crap for trendy mofos wtf. gg all while cryptomining and compiling a kernel. fantasy land tho folks cuz they still give you single channel ram on your laptop.

Normally I'd mostly agree, but the big problem is compatibility. A lot of ARM manufacturers are extremely lazy when it comes to anything that isn't an outdated version of Android. ARM is perfectly capable of handing the average person's everyday desktop PC workload, all while being physically smaller and more energy efficient than x86 counterparts. But even if you're a Linux user like myself (where software compatibility largely doesn't matter), it's still not a great platform to get into, because so many devices use crappy video drivers (like Mali), have completely missing drivers (like many VPUs), or on-board hardware that could work, but the manufacturer is intentionally negligent about. I have a handful of ARM devices that could replace my Haswell-based laptop, but they won't because of simple things like these. Meanwhile, if you get a device where it mostly does what it advertises, you're either going to pay a lot (like the Nvidia Jetson series) or you're going to get a very under-whelming device (like Raspberry Pi).

well i know what your talking about it being hit or miss on pre-configured devices these days, but that still isn't a actually problem with the arm arch. It's just typical capitalist, lawyers, proprietary code, retards who got hired with degrees, and clueless people willing to give them cash. Cant fix stupid. i believe the phrase is 'sucker born every seconds'. Only way to make a difference is more cohesion on the stock market; however, that can have a backlash as well. It not really a good idea to put yourself into a recession but when company is losing ambition to push boundaries and not change the world for the better they can kiss my ass! It just like car industry trying not to put seat belt in car and making A/C Option in 2017. I want wind im my face mo while i get the bill Clinton. Look we all could of let AMD flop when its stock crashed to $1 but we didn't because we like frying they product lmao. Break Bread. It why you see company like apple and google suck up investors, because generally people are pleased with the products! Buy Snapdragon has best power states and ati gpu. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/360_Model_91 Multi channel memory 1960 I think next gen amd want to intergrade a arm cpu i hope there implementation will be good. think i would at this point id rather just have a arm cpu come standard on Mother board like a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A7 That i could dual boot to for low power operation like if i plan to use my pc for media consumption since work rl is getting busy and i wont be using it much. Issuse i have with down clocking to arm cpu is i mostly multi task and use my pc for heavy workload like gaming, hobby developing, ect. so would i see a benefit of having that arm chip or would it be better for me just to have more compute power. people bashed the apu but it does a decent for its target audience. the pc platfom has changed really people only need a desktop for is if your into computation.