AMD Roadmaps mention RDNA2, ZEN3 and ZEN4
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Aura89
I really am curious if Zen 3 is going to be more of a Zen2+ then a whole new generation like Zen2 was.
It seems really quick for them to have a major architecture change, since Zen 3 is supposed to be released in 2020. Then again, i feel like Zen 3 will be DDR5, and maybe that'll be the major reason it's not considered Zen2+.
D1stRU3T0R
Undying
Im more interested in gpu segment and rdna2. Looks like thats a chip in ps5 and next xbox console coming next year with a raytracing support.
Evildead666
asturur
maybe the chiplet design allow them to make changes to the I/O part and to the chiplets separately, allowing for faster iterations.
I wish more details were shared, but i also not like the hype trains so much.
Evildead666
Aura89
slicer
I am sure that Zen3 is similar step in performance as Zen+ was for Zen. So around +10% more performace compared to Zen2 (Ryzen3000) right now.
And definetly more mature platform. Thats why I am skipping this Ryzen3000 series and X570/B550 boarda all together and stick with my Zen1 Ryzen1600'd and B350.
There is no burning need to change anyway.
And DDR5 will not come with the Zen3, I am very sure of that. Maybe Zen4 or even Zen5.
Evildead666
Denial
I'm 95% sure at one of the conferences Lisa Su specifically said Zen 3 was another major iteration to the architecture, that they can't afford to slow down with half measures anymore. It's obviously going 7nm EUV on cores, I'm not sure if the IO die process is changing or not though as they still have a contract with GF. There were rumors about 4 way SMT (I don't believe this) - I'd expect AVX512 to be supported this go around.
AMD really can't afford to sit around with Intel restructuring it's entire engineering division. Intel is going to start moving a lot of new designs down the pipe and it's already starting to show with things like foveros. AMD needs to be agile or they'll end up exactly where they were 5 years ago.
Mda400
Evildead666
Denial
Evildead666
spectatorx
I'm interested on more details on their plans for gpus than anything else. Are they going to release rx5800/5900 based on higher navi gpus? If yes then when? Are they going to ditch 5xxx naming scheme and jump straight to 6xxx or change naming again to something different? 5xx to vegaxx and to 5xxx naming scheme can be confusing to average Joe. I was aiming towards top navi (rx5800/5900xt or whatever they would name them) hoping for these cards to be decent performers at 4k in many games and high fps performers in 2560x1440 resolution but now i am confused and have no idea what to wait for and for how long. I'm not going to buy 5700xt because these are mid-range and i want to jump from ancient r9 380 straight to latest top card from amd. I could jump to intel's gpu but their discrete gpu release is far from now and this probably also will be just mid-range gpu. Do they abandon releasing navi gpus and 5700s are the only ones and now only rdna2? To be honest these roadmaps tell me nothing and confuse me even more.
Neo Cyrus
So no Zen 2+. Is Zen 3 going to be compatible with X470/X570?
MSI probably won't provide support as they're barely supporting Zen 2 (16MB BIOS chip, 16 fracking megabytes, and they only provide ONE SOLDERED NOT SOCKETED chip too), but I assume other board manufacturers would support Zen 3 if there is no compatibility issue.
JamesSneed
Cidious
Here's what I think (not that that matters at all but I'll share).
AMD explicitly noted they would be focusing on energy efficiency, and from that I can only assume they will shrink the I/O module to 7nm too now hopefully at 7nm+ which is responsible for 30% total power consumption of the current line-up. That would make a nice increase of efficiency and then think about slightly pushing core clocks a bit for a little bit of increased IPC on the new improved process. They already said the next series wont be focussed on increasing IPC much but mainly lowering power usage. Which makes me believe that they MIGHT increase core count instead.
What I think MIGHT happen is something like this:
3600-3600X 6 cores -> 4600-4600X 8 cores
3700X-3800X 8 cores -> 4700X-4800X 12 cores
3900X 12 cores -> 4900X 16 cores
3950X 16 cores -> 4950X 24 cores
at roughly the same TDP and prices as the current line up. This would be possible if the 7nm+ process pans out as expected, looking at Apples Bionic 7nm+ results.
Ofcourse don't take my word for it. This is just assuming but it would be a logical next step for AMD and this would be really good for customers being able to dip into even more cores at the same price range since it will probably be the last AM4 line-up it would help with the life expectancy of your setup just upgrading GPU over time.
Lets see what they come up with next year.
RooiKreef
I hope AMD can actually get their frequencies up and their boost clocks to actually clock properly. They have the IPC to match Intel at the moment, now they only need to match Intel in actual clock frequency.
Maddness
Itβs really good to see AMD not sitting on there laurels. Lisa is obviously one smart cookie.