AMD Releases More Architecture Details on ZEN
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icedman
I want to see some APUS with a higher tdp cap for overclocking 4c 8t with rx460 equivalent that would almost be enuff to replace my current rig lol
sykozis
tsunami231
.... like I said I wana know how much STP the gona sacrificed for all those cores. which directly related to clock speeds and architecture it not just about clockspeeds.
-Tj-
PrMinisterGR
http://i.imgur.com/VFjN7Q0h.jpg
This part is equivalent to the socket 2011 parts from Intel, and the AM4 socket will have a similar amount of pins, if I understood correctly.
By the way, the AMD presentation was very low key and professional, I liked very much how measured everyone was. After reading the Anandtech architecture analysis, this is shaping up to be a great part. We'll get more in the coming months.
None. There is no useless integrated GPU in the high-end desktop parts, unlike the 4-core i7s, whose largest part of the die is the GPU.
Kaarme
PrMinisterGR
Judging by the presentations, I expect 3.0GHz to be the absolute minimum.
Minotaur
A iGPU isn't useless, my 4770k's keeps up with my 780Ti with SETI work units. It's also nice having a backup to the nvidia card that gets a black screen and requires a restart now and then due to driver bugs.
AMD better deliver, Intel needs competition. Perhaps they shall win against Intel? They failed with nVidia miserably and nVidia gimped their card designs as there was no real competition expected. Just look at those small memory buses, they are obviously holding back there till the next series. 🙁
I wish there was competition, just look at what's being held back!
LimitbreakOr
LimitbreakOr
schmidtbag
Kaarme
iGPU might be nice under abnormal circumstances (main video card busted), but I'd rather have a better CPU for 99.99% of time than a weaker CPU + iGPU for the sake of 0.01% of time. You can always get some 50 bucks basic videocard to keep in a drawer in case of emergencies if your super CPU doesn't come with an iGPU. No big deal when you know it beforehand.
0blivious
I cannot wait for the real deal to get into Hilbert's hands to see some good, honest numbers to see how these will really perform in the wild. I want them to kick some Intel tail like the old days, but I suspect they will be very similar to the current i7 lineup. Priced right, that should still be great for everyone.
AMD, as a company has been flailing. They don't have the R&D money like Intel because they are not in very good shape financially (If you compare stocks/reports/marketshare). I've stopped hoping for AMD to bring enthusiasts the next big leap in CPUs. On the GPU side, they face nearly the same, lopsided uphill battle with Nvidia.
A disadvantaged AMD shouldn't be able to win these (King of the Hill) battles but who doesn't root for the underdog anyways? 🙂
Aura89
schmidtbag
tsunami231
yah I think igpu is waste of space on high end cpu be it intel or amd or what ever i dont know why they are in there other then intel dont seen the need to use the space to actual improve there chips, but it "can" come in handy when and if a dGPU dies and need to be replace/rma when you dont have spare lying around.
Like I said I want AMD to pull the magicly rabbit out of the hat that make intel sweat, cause then the whole who is faster and cheaper wars can begin anew and the end user profits
nz3777
Go zen, I really have hope for them.
Chillin
Kaarme