Ah good to have more confirmation on them doing a die shrink for these, maybe fix up Vega a bit and who knows what could be done with Zen2 (Is that a Z at all in the title here?) with a die shrink and some additional polish and tweaking. Just a die shrink alone won't wholly resolve Vega though, force higher clocks and crazy stock voltage and it will still be hardware limited via ROP's and those TMU's or what they were called but eh should be able to get some additional performance out of a die shrink on these and probably even more on the CPU side where AMD has really started catching up lately. 🙂 EDIT: Essentially the Vega's are front loaded or how it was referred to as, GPU cores aren't doing their utmost because they're waiting on these other parts but this has been a similar build since GCN was introduced it seems so it could do with a overhaul once Navi comes out and hopefully that will resolve the issue fully, we'll see. (From what my searching has found so far when it comes to how these perform and what AMD has done with the GPU's such as the really high stock voltage.)

if you look at both of the slides, we have Zen+ at the same spot where the 7nm Vega.... GPUs are moving slower ... at least we will get 7nm Zen2 on time it seems

There have been rumors of a refreshed Vega for a while now, though I don't think anyone expected them to happen at 7nm. There is still very little info about them and given the new node, I wouldn't expect them earlier than late Q3, more likely Q4.

Upcoming 2019 seems to be an interesting year. Looking forward to Zen 2. Hell, maybe even Vega if it works out.

cryohellinc:

Upcoming 2019 seems to be an interesting year. Looking forward to Zen 2. Hell, maybe even Vega if it works out.

This.

Competition is looking really good. 2019 i might give AMD a try

cryohellinc:

Upcoming 2019 seems to be an interesting year. Looking forward to Zen 2. Hell, maybe even Vega if it works out.

Agree. They may lure me into upgrading my 1800x if the Zen CPU's end up close to the hype, which I think they will.

So Vega with 12nm wasn't even worth it for AMD. As HBM2 price is more than double what they expected, probably pushing GPU's forward again in hopes the price comes down. At least refresh Polaris with 12nm please 🙁

Zen 2 for '19 looks extremely intriguing, die shrink plus some really nice architectural improvements, while maintaining backwards compatibility with AM4+. To shake up the GPU markets in a similar fashion, I'd like to see an 8GB ~$250 (+ or - $50) 7nm product next year that will do for them what the original 8GB $250 14nm Polaris did (although I had to wait a year to buy one at MSRP!)--that card is still running every game in my stable @ QHD + SSAA.

Looking good, I think i'll postpone the upgrade until 2019 at this rate.

Worth mentioning that unlike the current Samsung-based LP(E/P) processes the GloFo 7LP is short for "Leading Performance", not "Low Power" like the Samsung ones

I would very much like an AMD GPU now to replace my gtx 1080 then I'll be all AMD

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