128bit? In 2023?

Jujubee:

128bit? In 2023?

It seems thats a trend with 60 class cards from both vendors. It will end up as a 1080p card only.

Jujubee:

128bit? In 2023?

It would make sense in the entry level range. Maybe 150-200$. I guess AMD wants another drop of 64% in the client space.

$250 pricing is not too bad if it holds true. A little low would be better.

Makes getting a 6700xt 12gb for my mini rig even more enticing once lower 7 series cards launch. It's a 1080p lan rig anyways with RX 580 4GB. 4060/ti price is a joke. I only upgrade my mini rig GPU every 4-5 years.

Agonist:

Makes getting a 6700xt 12gb for my mini rig even more enticing once lower 7 series cards launch. It's a 1080p lan rig anyways with RX 580 4GB. 4060/ti price is a joke. I only upgrade my mini rig GPU every 4-5 years.

If its actually reasonable priced to 200-250$ it could be great thing for your mini pc. Its will also be more efficent than 6700xt. 4060ti at 400$ is a joke.

Well, looking at that photograph I see that the question regarding if it is the 7600, or the 7600 XT, that is about to launch appears to have been answered. I can also spin around in my chair and examine a whole stack of Radeon graphic card cartons from over the years, going well back to pre-GCN days. None of them have the VRAM capacity displayed even remotely as clearly as the Sapphire cards in that photo. Many don't have any capacity stated on the end panel at all, including a 6000-series Sapphire card that followed me home one day. In fact, I'd offer that I've never seen the VRAM capacity so prominently displayed on a graphics card carton. And, this is on a new 8Gb card, about to launch into a angry mob that are already brandishing torches and pitchforks. Just speculation, but it makes me wonder why RTG is so thoroughly emphasizing a design choice they must know is going to meet with some degree of criticism. I mean, these aren't just 8Gb cards ladies and gentlemen; these are some proud 8Gb cards! Perhaps they have something waiting in the wings they absolutely do *not* want confused with the 8Gb 7600? Otherwise, why, if only partially, cripple your new product right out of the gate by essentially highlighting what many will see as it's major limitation? Is this the 'Stalking Horse' edition?

@Celcius curious, I am on the opposite side I might be mistaken but I think every GPU box I ever saw had the vram amount with huge letters !

Venix:

@Celcius curious, I am on the opposite side I might be mistaken but I think every GPU box I ever saw had the vram amount with huge letters !

Yeah was thinking the same as @Venix... talking exclusively about powercolor to narrow the argument: * 6000 series have the RAM amount in the box; arguably not super big, but definitely noticeable * 5000 series: idem * Vega series: is not present (so far in the 3 boxes i found in the internet) * Rx 500 series: not present (odd some other manufacturers actually put the ram amount) * RX 400 series: present, discrete but visible * RX 300 series : present and definitely more visible than 400 series * Rx 200 series: present and as visible as 300 series; arguably in this series other manufacturers have in big a** letter the RAM amount, so... yeah it's not exactly as if this was just something new. * HD 7000 series: present, and discrete: actually other brands like gigabyte and Sapphire had way bigger representation on RAM amoun in their boxes, overall sapphire. * HD 6000 series: present and littler more visible than 7000 series. Well... the idea is more or less there. So I'm calling BS about: [QUOTE="I can also spin around in my chair and examine a whole stack of Radeon graphic card cartons from over the years, going well back to pre-GCN days. None of them have the VRAM capacity displayed even remotely as clearly as the Sapphire cards in that photo! There were brands in certain series where they definitely made the ram amount super visible Sapphire 5770 flex Sapphire r9 290 tri-X Sapphire 7990 6600xt etc etc. So let's not push into idiotic territory with stupid a** cryptic conspiracy theories where there are non. Edit: i give up... no idea how to remove the quote from the rest of the text

Jujubee:

128bit? In 2023?

Undying:

It seems thats a trend with 60 class cards from both vendors. It will end up as a 1080p card only.

It does seem that AMD is following Nvidia`s footsteps regarding crippling lower end cards... Bad signs for the future...

Undying:

If it actually reasonable prices to 200-250$ it could be great thing for your mini pc. Its will also be more efficent than 6700xt. 4060ti at 400$ is a joke.

I refuse to buy 8GB card this late in 2023. I dont care about Ray Tracing in my mini rig. Its just a 75hz 1080p portable rig to take to my friends house once a month. If the 7600 or w/e is 8GB, its a no buy. Seen a used 6700xt recently for $285. If my 6800xt would fit, Id put it in there and get a 7900xtx. Hell if I can find a GTX 3080 10GB for a good deal, then Ill get that if its the same price as a 4060ti soon.

why waste gpu slot for this ? glue this 'onto' a cpu, right next to v-cache, use v-cache as vram or buffer, make it am4/am5 i mean ddr4/ddr5 comp. let it use 35W cpu max +45W and im in. otherwise i stay out of this game. 2023 .... come on man

Lower prices would be better now with component costs coming down no more excuses for manufactures to keep pricing high other then greed ( Nvidia ) Looking forward to the benchmarks on the RX 7600 and RTX 4060 / Ti. Hilbert.

Venix:

@Celcius curious, I am on the opposite side I might be mistaken but I think every GPU box I ever saw had the vram amount with huge letters !

I'm certain you are not mistaken at all, as it's entirely likely that has been your experience. I've no reason to believe otherwise; it just simply differs from my own. No harm, no foul.

hijodeosiris:

Yeah was thinking the same as @Venix... talking exclusively about powercolor to narrow the argument: * 6000 series have the RAM amount in the box; arguably not super big, but definitely noticeable * 5000 series: idem * Vega series: is not present (so far in the 3 boxes i found in the internet) * Rx 500 series: not present (odd some other manufacturers actually put the ram amount) * RX 400 series: present, discrete but visible * RX 300 series : present and definitely more visible than 400 series * Rx 200 series: present and as visible as 300 series; arguably in this series other manufacturers have in big a** letter the RAM amount, so... yeah it's not exactly as if this was just something new. * HD 7000 series: present, and discrete: actually other brands like gigabyte and Sapphire had way bigger representation on RAM amoun in their boxes, overall sapphire. * HD 6000 series: present and littler more visible than 7000 series. Well... the idea is more or less there. So I'm calling BS about: [QUOTE="I can also spin around in my chair and examine a whole stack of Radeon graphic card cartons from over the years, going well back to pre-GCN days. None of them have the VRAM capacity displayed even remotely as clearly as the Sapphire cards in that photo!

There were brands in certain series where they definitely made the ram amount super visible Sapphire 5770 flex Sapphire r9 290 tri-X Sapphire 7990 6600xt etc etc. So let's not push into idiotic territory with stupid a** cryptic conspiracy theories where there are non. Edit: i give up... no idea how to remove the quote from the rest of the text ====================================================================== Firstly, do you feel better now? Next, I didn't state that any of the cartons in my possession lacked the VRAM amount being specified on the end panel; I simply wrote that none of the cartons happened to have that specification displayed either as prominently, or in some cases, even at all. And, in the latter case, I think that is understandable, as it allows the AIB to use the same carton throughout a range of products. If I owned a cell phone or a digital camera, and knew where to have a photo hosted so as to upload it to the forum, I likely would have included it at the time. But, forget all that, now. In the case of the previously mentioned Sapphire 6000-series card I have, the VRAM is stated on the carton exactly twice. Once on the front panel, in text about 10mm high, and again on the UPC label in text I'll estimate to be about 2mm high. It's not even stated under 'Product Specifications' or 'Key Features' on the rear of the carton. It simply struck me as a bit odd that with all the outrage surrounding VRAM capacity, some one wouldn't have chosen to dial-back the labeling on a product that may well have a troubled launch because of that very specification. But, if that idle rumination constitutes a "push into idiotic territory" and a "stupid a** cryptic conspiracy theory" then I'd say you are setting the bar for each to be awfully low. With criteria like that, if you were moderating over at Videocardz you'd probably need to wipe out out the entire website. Now, independently of this thread, I have become aware that plastering the VRAM amount on the cartons of the 7000-series cards certainly seems to be consistent across the various AIBs, so I'm more than willing to concede that point with regard to the Sapphire 7600s. I never thought I'd be pushing someone's buttons by discussing graphic card packaging. I gather no one else finds it a bit interesting that what certainly seems like the full Navi 33 die is being committed to a card that lacks the "XT" designation? Or, that RTG appears to abandoning, at least for now, the "x600 XT" tier? OK. And, no one else wonders where all the Navi 33 dies which turn up partially defective might be headed, since the "7600" moniker is apparently already spoken for? OK. Fine.

Celcius:

I'm certain you are not mistaken at all, as it's entirely likely that has been your experience. I've no reason to believe otherwise; it just simply differs from my own. No harm, no foul.

There is certainly no harm no foul here ! I was just surprised our experience in this apsect was so different that's all !