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#4798082
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Ha! I live in Fiji.
#4798088
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Wasn't Nvidia 20nm delayed till 2015?
#4798090
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just rumors, nothing official
#4798109
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Wasn't Nvidia 20nm delayed till 2015?
Nvidia will wait till AMD releases Pirate Island first then figure out how little or how hard they will have to try to beat it.
#4798111
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just rumors, nothing official
Yeah, just checking because that's the last I read. I know it's rumours. In a way, I want AMD to come second this time. Let Nvidia come first, with whatever outrageous pricing they choose, then AMD comes, prices go down, Rob makes a purchase. Everyone happy.
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Nvidia will wait till AMD releases Pirate Island first then figure out how little or how hard they will have to try to beat it.
Yeah, I think AMD should do that, it's only wise not to go first.
#4798113
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Wasn't Nvidia 20nm delayed till 2015?
Just rumors, but either way doesn't affect what AMD does...unless TSMC can't pull off 20nm for some reason.
#4798124
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If that R9 390X spec is true... HOLY DAMN!!! Think I will hold off getting a second 7970 til I hear more about that potential beast!
#4798189
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Wasn't Nvidia 20nm delayed till 2015?
Speculation based at least partially on fact...
Nvidia will wait till AMD releases Pirate Island first then figure out how little or how hard they will have to try to beat it.
Speculation based on the baseless idea that these companies actually have the ability to make abrupt and substantial architectural changes to a chip regardless of the fact that they're typically already in final production and would have to kill things full-stop, make changes, go through the tape-out process, obtain re-certification and approval, then re-start the entire pre production/ramping up/full production process all over again. The only thing that can be done so far along is increase mem/core clocks if the silicon process is mature, with good enough yields, to allow for the additional voltage while avoiding leakage and other heat inducing factors.
Just rumors, but either way doesn't affect what AMD does...unless TSMC can't pull off 20nm for some reason.
The possible delay of nVidia's Maxwell has a direct correlation to when AMD will be able to release their chips because they're both being manufactured at TSMC and right now it seems TSMC's 20nm wafer capacity is completely booked till the end of Q3 2014 by smartphone and tablet manufacturers. Just the facts Ma'am...
TSMC capacity booked to the end of 3Q14 Cage Chao, Taipei; Steve Shen, DIGITIMES [Wednesday 2 April 2014] The production capacity of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) has been booked through the end of the third quarter of 2014 thanks to orders from handset solution and PC chip vendors, according to industry sources. The planned roll-outs of new smartphones by brand handset vendors and the upcoming 4G services in China have pushed chipset solution vendors to place wafer start orders at TSMC, the sources noted. Consumer IC suppliers are also placing short lead-time orders at TSMC as demand from downstream and end-market device makers is likely to pick up soon, added the sources. As a result, TSMC's 8- and 12-inch fabs are currently operating at 100% and over 90% of their capacity, respectively, said the sources, adding that the foundry's 20nm and 28nm production lines are fully occupied by orders for smartphone and tablet solutions.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20140402PD212.html
#4798194
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AMD isn't limited to just TSMC. lol AMD also has a deal with GloFo for GPUs... So, if TSMC can't put out GPUs for them, AMD can simply fall back to GloFo.
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Nvidia will wait till AMD releases Pirate Island first then figure out how little or how hard they will have to try to beat it.
This ^
#4798227
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I do not see AMD going with 7GHz GDDR5 in 512bit configuration. If you want to make bets, then it's more probable that top-end will have HBM instead.
#4798228
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Puts 2x 390x on wish list.
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I'm pretty sure the higher the memory bus, the lower the memory clock... Anyways that site is known to produce fake articles with no listed sources just for ad revenue.
#4798309
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The 390X Bermuda looks like a beast! Thanks for sharing.
#4798345
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Man thats alot of SP on 1 die, but hey if they can pull it off i think ill pick one up.
#4798385
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96 ROPs Damn they really are going for the 4K market. How the hell are they going to feed that?
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AMD isn't limited to just TSMC. lol AMD also has a deal with GloFo for GPUs... So, if TSMC can't put out GPUs for them, AMD can simply fall back to GloFo.
Is GlobalFoundries ready to make 20nm GPUs?
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AMD isn't limited to just TSMC. lol AMD also has a deal with GloFo for GPUs... So, if TSMC can't put out GPUs for them, AMD can simply fall back to GloFo.
I dont see them use only Glofo for gpu's ... I believe Glofo is more enclined to produce SOC, Nand in 14-16nm FinFet instead, just for grab as many money and marketshare possible.. Now we know that TSMC seems have some delay for mass production of 20nm ( high performance, we are not speaking about SOC ) ..
#4798461
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I dont see them use only Glofo for gpu's ... I believe Glofo is more enclined to produce SOC, Nand in 14-16nm FinFet instead, just for grab as many money and marketshare possible.. Now we know that TSMC seems have some delay for mass production of 20nm ( high performance, we are not speaking about SOC ) ..
I saw on YT video from HW dev. conference where guy from TSMC showed their new roadmap and talked about High performance 20nm was not good enough (very small difference to low power draw tech) and basically there is no special high performance 20nm on TSMC (one tech. which scales power draw based on clocks), should be back with 14/16nm FinFET. So 20nm TSMC will not bring maximum and therefore performance bump will be pretty nice with 14/16nm. As for GloFo I am not sure here, but they should be capable to make similarly clocked GPUs as those present in APUs are decent overclockers even on 28nm. Proper question would be: "What kind of power consumption we can expect from GloFo chips?" (because I have not seen any kind of measurement based on GPU in APU)

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