AMD might have replaced 14nm Ryzen 5 1600 processors with 12nm 2600 ones
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Lcc
Interesting.
sykozis
Saw this mentioned elsewhere....
Astyanax
These honestly should be sold as Ryzen 5 2600L and the 1600 numbering discontinued.
DmitryKo
Well, these 12nm Zen+ dies do match Ryzen 5 1600 frequencies of 3.2/3.6 GHz, as opposed to 3.4/3.9 GHz specified for Ryzen 5 2600 - and since performance improvements over the "real" 14nm Zen based Ryzen 5 1600 are marginal, they probably did not want to confuse customers by creating yet another model designation, as they already have an OEM-only Ryzen 5 2600E rated at 3.1/4.0 GHz.
Silva
Probably getting rid of chips that can't hit 2600 specs but are still too good to drop a step. Instead of creating confusion and create another SKU, they box it as an 1600 that still sells good.
schmidtbag
icedman
I personally would liked to see these get the 2xxx naming but it makes sense to keep naming this way to avoid confusion either way they must be doing this to free up fab space since 7nm is in short supply and 12nm is better than 14nm so may as well move on.
user1
pretty normal, zen and zen+ are basically the same apart form Bugfixes and some tuning, so it would make sense that amd would end 14nm B1 stepping production in favor of a B2 stepping (amd did /does make a 14nm b2 stepping for first-gen epyc, aswell as the b2 stepping on 12nm used for ryzen/threadripper 2XXX)
Venix
i am somewhat surprised that they are still producing "fresh" r5 1600 cpus ... i thought with the release of r5 2600 what ever 1600 exists around is left over stock or something
Reddoguk
So these are PR chips labelled as SR chips. So it must be Pinnacle Ridge chips that fail to hit the targeted numbers so they still use them but as pretend Summit Ridge 1600 cpus.
Alessio1989
BIOS issues with older 300 series MBs in 3, 2, 1...
sykozis
teleguy
Alessio1989
Most people do not update the MB BIOS because they do not have any clue about it. Most of 300 series MB do not have the BIOS flash-back feature, most non-retailed OEMs do not provides BIOS update for newer Ryzen versions. Happy cold boot.
sykozis
People that are upgrading just a processor, generally know how to update a bios.....
user1
sykozis
These new R5 1600 branded processors are cheaper and faster than the original R5 1600AE... only a few % slower than the R5 2600.... Thinking about ordering one. I've been considering an R5 2600 but it's been going for $115 - 125, compared to the R5 1600AF at $85....
Kool64
Yeah it’s quite an amazing budget deal.
anticupidon
For a small server, it's a sweet deal.
MonstroMart