The server platform is where the most innovative ideas are brought and breed. After a while, some things end up on the desktop platform.
AMD just accelerate this process, and gone are the days when only a few selected mortals were able to purchase Xeons with more than 4C/4T.
It is a generalization, for sure there are details than we can debate on, no point in starting an argument.
Amdahl's law is today's status quo.
Anandtech did a preliminary bunch of tests and seemed quite excited about it both on bang and then doubly on bang per buck. Hopefully it will make inroads into the enterprise sector and get some good profits for AMD.
Anandtech did a preliminary bunch of tests and seemed quite excited about it both on bang and then doubly on bang per buck. Hopefully it will make inroads into the enterprise sector and get some good profits for AMD.
Indeed. "AMD offers you up to 50 to 100% higher performance while offering at a 40% lower price"
Outstanding AMD!
"why imagine? for me it's reality (ok ,not 7000$ rome, but 800$ used QS xeons)
https://imgur.com/EEPkrql"
Thats not even close in terms of performance/connectivity.
Task manager would look so amazing. Dont worry in a few years time something like this would be useful for most people. 😉
Dude my inner geek squealed out loud when I saw 16 threads on my 2700X and then again when I saw 24 threads on my new 3900X.... I think I would die if I saw 128 threads!!! lol
But, lets be honest, these would suck for gaming with such low clock speeds.
"why imagine? for me it's reality (ok ,not 7000$ rome, but 800$ used QS xeons)
https://imgur.com/EEPkrql"
Thats not even close in terms of performance/connectivity.
close enough, ;also core i9 is not even close to xeon, so what
I don't get what's the point with the 8 core ones. They have support for ECC and 4 channel ram but clocks are lower while TDP and price are higher than an equivalent Ryzen
I don't get what's the point with the 8 core ones. They have support for ECC and 4 channel ram but clocks are lower while TDP and price are higher than an equivalent Ryzen
PCIe lanes. Nothing comes anywhere close to what Epyc provides for PCIe lanes, so stuff like high-bandwidth NICs, RAID controllers, and GPUs are what the low-end parts are for. You don't need that much processing power to handle such things. I suppose they could even go to 4 cores but I'm sure if a die has enough defects where only 1/8 of it worked, the whole thing is probably junk.
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I wouldn't be surprised if we see another Quadro/Tesla server using the 8-core Epycs.
Anandtech did a preliminary bunch of tests and seemed quite excited about it both on bang and then doubly on bang per buck. Hopefully it will make inroads into the enterprise sector and get some good profits for AMD.
It entirely depends on AMD getting partner systems out the gate and in the market. Intel will have an answer for this next year and if customers are waiting 2 quarters or more for AMD partner SKUs to ship/launch then it's basically irrelevant - this has been a problem for AMD in the past but thankfully they've been hiring people from other companies that are experts in turning this kind of stuff around.
I really hope it works out for them because once the gap closes again I don't think AMD is going to get another chance like this.
It entirely depends on AMD getting partner systems out the gate and in the market. Intel will have an answer for this next year and if customers are waiting 2 quarters or more for AMD partner SKUs to ship/launch then it's basically irrelevant - this has been a problem for AMD in the past but thankfully they've been hiring people from other companies that are experts in turning this kind of stuff around.
I really hope it works out for them because once the gap closes again I don't think AMD is going to get another chance like this.
Intel may have an answer, but I question if it's the answer companies are looking for. To my understanding, their next-gen Xeons are basically just 2 of their Xeon 8280s put on the same package. Maybe each die will be cut down a little bit to make it more cost effective, but it won't make a big difference. A single 8280 already costs $10k. Even in an unrealistically best-case scenario where Intel cuts the price in half per-die, that new CPU is still going to be more power hungry and expensive than a single 7742, with roughly the same level of performance. Not to mention, fewer PCIe lanes. And, keep in mind it probably will have to be clocked lower (last I checked, it's still going to be 14nm).
I roll my eyes whenever people say "Intel is dead" but seriously, that's an incredibly bleak future if Intel's yet-to-be-released response is already a worse proposition.
I'm confident Intel will at some point have a better server product than AMD, but, I have no confidence whatsoever that is going to happen before 2021, and I'm not very confident it'll happen in 2021 either. That's definitely enough time for AMD to gain enough marketshare to fund an even better architecture.
Spoiler: ';)'