I suspected October but this is good news if it turns out to be true and Hawaii competes with Titan and Titan LE.

is this there next generation of cards or simply a refresh? are they going with a die shrink or just a new architecture?

From what I have read, It will be competing with Maxwell. It's next-gen with a die shrink to 20 nm.

It looks like new GPUs are coming this fall with AMD’s Hawaii now set for late September. This one is going to change the market mainly because there is no competition for it this year. As SemiAccurate said in April when we reported about Nvidia’s cancellation of the GK114 Kepler update, the company is showing severe financial stress related cracks in the development roadmap. Hawaii and the Volcanic Islands family is coming this fall and a late September public show likely means an October silicon launch. This is a massively updated GPU vs the minor tweaks in the last round. Given the timing, Hawaii is unquestionably a 28nm part so no shrink related performance bump but the architectural changes should more than make up for that. It is unlikely to be an incremental advance. Nvidia in the mean time canceled the minor update that was due out last quarter and surprisingly canceled the first big Maxwell set for next spring. This leaves them with nothing to compete against AMD with for the fall “back to school” market and the winter holiday ******. The next minor blip will be in the spring as described in the link above, but that is not competition for AMD, it is Nvidia salvaging the scraps they have left. Dire is barely adequate to describe their competitive situation for 2013 and 1H/2014. Development costs are spiraling and Nvidia added to their development costs by bifurcating their GPU architectures. This lead to an unsustainable cost structure, something visible in their reshuffling architectures for cost, not technical reasons. The path Nvidia has locked itself into is unsustainable and they are unquestionably aware of this, their reactive roadmap changes are short-term holding actions but fatal long-term. Meanwhile AMD is doing the sane thing and keeping one architectural development path. Hawaii is the next step and it will go in to devices top to bottom, APUs included starting with Kaveri in Q4 or early Q1. Please note that unlike what some are saying, there are no delays to Kaveri, the roadmap hasn’t slipped at all since earlier this year when SemiAccurate last looked. To make things even easier for AMD they have synergies with all three game consoles so 100% of next generation game engine development is AMD architecture focused. Anecdotally speaking, AMD is doing the obvious for the Hawaii launch. Any guesses where it will be? If you are thinking Hawaii you would be right on. AMD seems to have a knack for doing launches in odd locations that are very interesting to see and counter-intuitively cheaper than most dull locations. What is more interesting is the way that locations reflect changing press demographics. Update 8/7/13 @ 4pm: AMD has clarified that it is the Hawaii/Volcanic Islands tech day in September, not the launch. The launch will officially happen in Q4 some time, the dates in this article are our speculation.

So hows radeon pro looking these days? If I do switch back to AMD, I would hope there's some sort of tool to tweak my games.

Septembers just an unveiling according to AMD, launch could be around October, which im guessing could be right, what with BF4 releasing then, can't bloody wait! 😀 http://semiaccurate.com/2013/08/07/amd-to-launch-hawaii-in-hawaii/

The Hawaii GPU which falls in AMD’s Radeon HD line of graphic cards scores 4816 Points in Extreme preset. A quick Google on the intent reveals that the GeForce GTX Titan ends up with a score of 4500-4700 Points on Extreme preset while the GeForce GTX 780 scores a bit lower around 4400-4500 Points. The performance looks much more impressive when comparing generation vs generation (Southern Islands vs Volcanic Islands). The Radeon HD 7970 scores 3300-3500 points in the same benchmark so this is a major increase in performance on AMD’s end. http://i.imgur.com/CWM8FyT.jpg http://www.chiphell.com/thread-831155-1-1.html

I really hope that score was at stock clocks, otherwise it's pitiful.

rumors... score alone in 3dmark says nothing. AMD will not release a card weaker than titan, no point. if it be 30% faster than titan then i say wow, but i think it won't happen. AMD at best could make the card better than titan 10%, we have to see what maxwell bring to us

I'll probably end up buying "One" of these, But when exactly is maxwell coming out? I saw a slide a while back and it said 2014.....hell it could be Q4 2014 for all we know.

I really hope that score was at stock clocks, otherwise it's pitiful.

Agreed. Not impressed with that score. Hope its a stock run not overclocked.

Seriously, a 45% jump in performance between generation isn't impressive anymore?