Hmm... $4,000 EPYC 7601 2.2Ghz, 3.2Ghz boost 32C/64T 180w processor Or $12,400 Xeon Platinum 8180 2.5Ghz, 3.2Ghz boost, 28c/56t 220w processor Hm..... Decisions....decisions....... Could get a total of 96c/192t for the price of 28c/56t intel processor.... Decisions....decisions........... I will say though, the fact that the EPYC 7401, 24 core processor is only $1700, is really making me wonder how much the threadripper 16 core will be

Thats insanely cheap. I cant wait to see the comprisons.

I am honestly fed up with all-AMD, really. Internal testing? Well, good luck with you crappy memory controller with these 8 channels. Until we have proper in-depth reviews it is pointless to discuss how good or not these CPUs are.

I am honestly fed up with all-AMD, really.

AMD just getting started. By the time ZEN show all its cards and matures, ZEN2 with fast core performance will bring even more hype. Everybody is fed up of Intel's sidegrading since Sandy Bridge and raising price tag. Better get used to it.

I am honestly fed up with all-AMD, really. Internal testing? Well, good luck with you crappy memory controller with these 8 channels. Until we have proper in-depth reviews it is pointless to discuss how good or not these CPUs are.

Nothing like intels "improved ipc" claims then I guess. I agree with you on the review bit though.

Well, good luck with you crappy memory controller with these 8 channels.

Gotta love the people who come into these forums and spew nonsense because they know nothing. Oh, oh wait- you didn't realize the memory problems are not the memory controller...sorry...wait nevermind, that's the point, people spewing nonsense because they know nothing because they don't bother to learn....

Specifications of the upcomingÂ*AMD EPYC Server processor appeared online last night. The processors will be seated in the APYC 7000 series and has procs with 8 running up-to 32 cores.Â*... AMD EPYC 7000 Server processor Details Up-to 32 cores Specifications

Just saying. Asking half the price for a chip that has 4 more cores...and people wonder why Intel is in panic mode with 299. $1700 for 24 cores? Wasn't intel asking $2000 for 18? :banana: The 8 core part doesn't make much sense but at least the price makes sense (ya, I'm making fun of Intel again).

I will say though, the fact that the EPYC 7401, 24 core processor is only $1700, is really making me wonder how much the threadripper 16 core will be

Loved your post. My guess is Threadriper should be $999 to 1199$ for the 16 cores model.

I am honestly fed up with all-AMD, really. Internal testing? Well, good luck with you crappy memory controller with these 8 channels. Until we have proper in-depth reviews it is pointless to discuss how good or not these CPUs are.

I don't see your point, the CPU's perform fine and are priced competitively. Zen made Intel move, isn't this good?

AMD just getting started. By the time ZEN show all its cards and matures, ZEN2 with fast core performance will bring even more hype. Everybody is fed up of Intel's sidegrading since Sandy Bridge and raising price tag. Better get used to it.

Sandy Bridge was the last interesting thing intel did. Prof is me having it still (I know, not scientific prof).

Hmm... $4,000 EPYC 7601 2.2Ghz, 3.2Ghz boost 32C/64T 180w processor Or $12,400 Xeon Platinum 8180 2.5Ghz, 3.2Ghz boost, 28c/56t 220w processor Hm..... Decisions....decisions....... Could get a total of 96c/192t for the price of 28c/56t intel processor.... Decisions....decisions........... I will say though, the fact that the EPYC 7401, 24 core processor is only $1700, is really making me wonder how much the threadripper 16 core will be

I think things aren´t that simple when it comes to buying servers... From what i know the price of the cpu is just a small part of the cost of the system. And software and energy costs are also very important so it´s better not to make conclusions until reviews show how good EPYC really is. But personally i´m expecting EPYC to be a big hit for AMD and to gain them 10 or 20% market share in the server space. If only i remembered to buy MAD stock after the Ryzen reviews...:bang:

I think things aren´t that simple when it comes to buying servers... From what i know the price of the cpu is just a small part of the cost of the system. And software and energy costs are also very important so it´s better not to make conclusions until reviews show how good EPYC really is. But personally i´m expecting EPYC to be a big hit for AMD and to gain them 10 or 20% market share in the server space. If only i remembered to buy MAD stock after the Ryzen reviews...:bang:

I'll give you the software aspect, in regards to this current generation, since most software is probably more designed towards intel (even if the software maker didn't do that intentionally), and in the power consumption, it looks as though AMD will either match or beat intels offerings so that shouldn't be an issue, but in regards to costs, yes the CPU is a "relatively" small part of the overall setup, but the reality is, if i were buying 32 servers, and in the scenario i gave, i could get either (CPU wise), in totals: 1024 cores, 2048 threads for $128,000 Or 896 cores, 1792 threads for $396,800 Basically stating: You can save $268,800 while also getting 128 more cores and 256 more threads, that no longer becomes "chump change" for business', no matter the costs of the entire servers. And cores/threads do very much matter when it comes to servers, because in general, it dictates how many how many things they can do on their servers. I'll give an example: NFO gaming servers, unless you rent a dedicated, run upwards of 44 servers on one physical hardware server as it stands (at least i believe last i checked they were using intels 22 core servers with 44 threads). The threads part is key for them, because they rent out threads (you can choose to rent out more then one thread if you choose, but many people use one) rather then cores. So from a server standpoint, if they can rent out more threads on a server then their competitors product, which means more return on their investment, AND save $8000 right off the bat, meaning their ROI comes sooner rather then later, there's really no reason NOT to do it, other then programs not necessarily working the best since its been mostly an intel game for awhile. But i would gather that these same companies would rather pay the company that makes their software to better support AMD software (if they don't make it themselves for that matter), then to guarantee less ROI and guarantee that it will take them longer to hit break even due to less customers per server capable and added costs. In all honesty, i would not even remotely be surprised if companies like NFO jump on AMDs solution sooner rather then later. Does this mean i think people won't buy intel servers? No, just like customers, people buy what they know more often then not.

I think things aren´t that simple when it comes to buying servers... From what i know the price of the cpu is just a small part of the cost of the system. And software and energy costs are also very important so it´s better not to make conclusions until reviews show how good EPYC really is. But personally i´m expecting EPYC to be a big hit for AMD and to gain them 10 or 20% market share in the server space. If only i remembered to buy MAD stock after the Ryzen reviews...:bang:

The hardware is mostly "free" to large companies as they get to depreciate it for taxes. The database servers we have I see licensing costs and the licencing is about 10x more than the actual hardware since you have to pay up each year.

I am honestly fed up with all-AMD, really. Internal testing? Well, good luck with you crappy memory controller with these 8 channels. Until we have proper in-depth reviews it is pointless to discuss how good or not these CPUs are.

Get over it or stop reading tech news because a lot more AMD to come. Someone takes this personal saying "your memory' controller, its AMD's not ours, and its actually pretty damn good.

.... I will say though, the fact that the EPYC 7401, 24 core processor is only $1700, is really making me wonder how much the threadripper 16 core will be

Can't wait! :thumbup:

I am honestly fed up with all-AMD, really. Internal testing? Well, good luck with you crappy memory controller with these 8 channels. Until we have proper in-depth reviews it is pointless to discuss how good or not these CPUs are.

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I am honestly fed up with all-AMD, really. Internal testing? Well, good luck with you crappy memory controller with these 8 channels. Until we have proper in-depth reviews it is pointless to discuss how good or not these CPUs are.

Even if these CPUs somehow end up with worse performance over Ryzen (if anything, their IPC ought to be better), they're still a good deal. Yes, internal testing is effectively meaningless, but I don't really understand your pessimism.

At the current rate that AMD is pushing their CPU's, I still can't see how someone can still consider Intel. Whether that is in the professional or consumer market.

AMD is the only interesting thing happening on the CPU front these days...;) Intel is deeply slumbering...again...as always...;) I still love the EPYC name--a jab in your eye, Intel!...;) Great to see competition again!

AMD is the only interesting thing happening on the CPU front these days...;) Intel is deeply slumbering...again...as always...;) I still love the EPYC name--a jab in your eye, Intel!...;) Great to see competition again!

You dont think that what Fujitsu has been doing, making the best supercomputers and the CPUs in them like the SPARC XIfx, is interesting? Came out in 2015 with 34 cores, built in 6 dimensional torus fusion fabric, 32GB 480GB/s HMC per CPU, 20nm TSMC process.

The 8 core part doesn't make much sense but at least the price makes sense (ya, I'm making fun of Intel again).

If it has same 128 PCIe lanes as others, then it is ideal super cheap CPU for system with many GPUs. (GPU compute server.) AMD has something for everyone. They just have to start moving those CPUs to market.

You dont think that what Fujitsu has been doing, making the best supercomputers and the CPUs in them like the SPARC XIfx, is interesting? Came out in 2015 with 34 cores, built in 6 dimensional torus fusion fabric, 32GB 480GB/s HMC per CPU, 20nm TSMC process.

x86 crowd is huge. Having great CPU not exactly based on x86 can as well be IBM's Power CPU, or some huge ARM based farm. Their customer base will be pretty minor and pretty specific. So CPU itself is not exciting to read about. HMC, yes till price comes into picture. Then you go back to HBM and dream about affordable stuff.

If it has same 128 PCIe lanes as others, then it is ideal super cheap CPU for system with many GPUs. (GPU compute server.) AMD has something for everyone. They just have to start moving those CPUs to market. x86 crowd is huge. Having great CPU not exactly based on x86 can as well be IBM's Power CPU, or some huge ARM based farm. Their customer base will be pretty minor and pretty specific. So CPU itself is not exciting to read about. HMC, yes till price comes into picture. Then you go back to HBM and dream about affordable stuff.

Well i was pointing out that very exciting stuff is happening with CPUs, even if theyre not common. Semiconductor design is getting very interesting because of the complications with making features smaller, power and data locality becoming huge issues. 3D ICs are really starting to get seriously developed, as well as a lot of exotic tech that will make its way into x86 CPUs in a few years. Its interesting if you stay ahead of the trends.

You dont think that what Fujitsu has been doing, making the best supercomputers and the CPUs in them like the SPARC XIfx, is interesting? Came out in 2015 with 34 cores, built in 6 dimensional torus fusion fabric, 32GB 480GB/s HMC per CPU, 20nm TSMC process.

Not sure how that is supposed to excite us, the consumers, since it's not a product we can use, and even if it were, it wouldn't be a product we could use correctly.