AMD confirms the release of Zen 4 and RDNA3 this year
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Reddoguk
I foresee issues with price and availability. I believe it's going to get harder and harder to find stock at a fair price and not way over retail prices. I'll be with AMD 5000 series at least til Zen 5 or whatever comes after Zen 4.
Kaarme
I reckon the expenses compensation only applies to CPUs, where AMD is already facing tough competition from Intel, and in fact below HEDT, Intel is currently more interesting. On the GPU side it doesn't matter since end user prices aren't based on expenses but bottomless greed.
icedman
With the gpu market and prices it's no surprise
Devid
Good and said in the same time!
Next generations are always welcome, but at what cost?
Horus-Anhur
CPU chips are much smaller than the ones for a GPU. And have a much higher profit margin.
So I bet AMD is going to focus most of it's allocation on TSMC, on making CPUs. Chances are the CPUs will have decent availability and have a price close to MSRP.
But I'm guessing that AMD is going to price them rather high, like they did with Zen3 when they released.
On the GPU side, maybe it will be a bit better than RDNA2. But I bet that availability is going to be bad, especially if these GPUs are any good at mining.
In summary, 2022, just like 2021.
mackintosh
Unless they radically outperform Alder and Raptor, AMD can't afford to price them at a premium. They made their killing with Zen3 and during the pandemic rush. Those days are over.
GPUs on the other hand are fair game, although I'm seeing quite a lot of stock at inflated prices. The bubble might be about to burst there, too.
Venix
pegasus1
Aura89
Kaarme
suty455
As we know it will depend on performance, this time around folks will have the same choice to make as AL , new board , new Ram etc so the prices will need to mirror Intels unless of course its a massive uplift on AL performance, I can see that happening as the all core at 5ghz statement was certainly aimed at keeping folks interested, either way for us as users its frickin awesome that we have 2 quality offers on the Table after our cash, long may it last (confession not had Intel since a failed core2duo)
JamesSneed
alpha007org
It's funny to me when Intel released their new architecture, people were saying "AMD is dead" even though we were comparing new Intel vs. a year old AMD offerings. I'm super excited we finally have some competition again after a decade of Intel stagnation with their +++++++++++++++ and 2-5% perf increase.
I'm also happy with RDNA2 and I pray I will finally be able to buy 6800/3080 this year for a more normal prices. I started seeing 6800xt for ~1000 EUR every now and then (last quarter they were 1600 EUR and up). But Nvidia 3080/3070 are still nowhere to be found for any semblance of a "normal" price.
Kaarme
olymind1
alpha007org
There were a lot of comments *here* about "AMD Dead".
TalentX
https://www.zdnet.com/pictures/all-the-major-intel-vulnerabilities/
Security-wise intel should be the last option out of the whole competition party. A tiny bit more performance with their latest CPUs doesn't make the flaws go away either and is not worth the exchange imo.
What? Have you already forgotten intel's big issue with security flaws? It's still a big deal even with their latest CPU series most of the flaws are not resolved yet.
Horus-Anhur
https://c.tenor.com/wYYUcfpc2fAAAAAd/lisa-su-amd.gif
Lisa Su won't go down without a fight 😀
mackintosh
AMD isn't "dead" any more so than Intel were when Threadripper and then Zen 3 caught them napping. They did, however, lose their short-lived competitive advantage in gaming applications.
That's an interesting sale pitch there mate. Good luck with that.
Btw, not saying you're wrong - but I am saying people couldn't give a flying boomerang.
tunejunky