AMD Announces Ryzen PRO processors
Click here to post a comment for AMD Announces Ryzen PRO processors on our message forum
Denial
So it's basically just Ryzen with an extended warranty and longer manufacturing time? I guess that's ok because Ryzen itself is pretty good, just seems weird.
They need APU pro parts.
Fox2232
I was like APUs! And then ... :'(
cryohellinc
So say 1700 top model versus 1700 Pro, I assume Pro will have a better non-binned version as a result potentially higher OC/longer life span?
RzrTrek
Rest in peace, PSU.
Loophole35
You really need to stop. Your ignorance on anything related to Ryzen is painful to read.
OT: It appears that your basically paying to a extended warranty.
Darkest
Someone is still suffering from buyers remorse I see.
AMD needs to get some Ryzen based APU's out of the door, this is cool and all but if it's just warranty based I'm not that fussed. I can't even remember the last time I had a CPU die on me.
Exascale
Ryzen Pro CPUs will have the memory encryption and more virtualization extensions for hardware root of trust like Epyc. I assume they also fully support ECC RAM.
They are also very specifically binned from the highest yield wafers, so they will likely be low leakage, run cooler and have less electromigration aging issues.
Can also assume that theyll be using solder in their packaging like they did on Ryzen.
https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/Delidded-Ryzen-7-1700-Confirms-AMD-Using-Solder-IHS-Ryzen-Processors
Its not just a warranty.
I dont think that Intel has a competing product with memory encryption in any of their product lineups. They certainly dont have it in the direct competitor for Ryzen Pro, which is the E3 Xeon.
And even Intels partial memory protection doesnt work.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/01/sgx_secure_until_you_look_at_the_detail/
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/07/eggheads_slip_a_note_under_intels_door_sgx_can_leak_crypto_keys/
The encrypted memory is a huge deal for NVDIMMs. Thats a key differentiator from Intel CPUs and something typically found in SPARC mainframes that cost millions.
Fox2232
Here All CPUs have 3 years warranty minimum. Manufacturers of nearly any stuff are not allowed to even try to provide any less. And if I pay for it with one of my extra credit cards, I get +1 year just for letting credit company know what I bought.
Darkest
It's similar elsewhere from what I understand.
I suspect most people will upgrade around 4-5 years or so, but even if that wasn't the case I've not seen a CPU die unless it has been heavily abused by the owner. It just isn't a real concern, so hopefully the Ryzen PRO has more up its sleeve. If what Exascale is suggesting is true, it could be interesting.
Aura89
Is this a sad attempt at trolling?
Loophole35
Maybe he meant to post that in the x299 thread?
Exascale
I was just pointing out what the articles stated.
Aura89
Or possibly the vega thread, but in regards to this thread, it just makes no sense.
nz3777
Thats what I thought it was Apu finally lol.They schould have a pretty good Apu this time around for 1080p Medium gaming in my opinion.I had a few A10S myself.
-Tj-
Hey, you sold that 1070 @ mining craze? Saving for 1080ti? 😀
N0Name
Seams like Passmark score leaked as well:
but still single thread performance under 2.2K (my personal threshold based on current i7-4770 non K score, of course ignoring MT).
Exascale
https://www.amd.com/en/ryzen-pro
Their official specs do show that their small socket chip supports transparent full memory encryption. Intel has NO competeing products with memory encryption. I believe only mainframes and other secure by design CPUs have this kind of feature set.
Loophole35
Now the question is, "Is there a market for this? Intel has neglected it. Is that on purpose?"
1080ti SC will be here Wednesday. 😀
Got $400 for a 1 year old 1070. Tell me you wouldn't.
Exascale
Ask anyone who runs a datacenter or handles financial or other sensitive data on millions of servers around the world.
There is a huge market for CPUs that can transparently keep all the data in flight encrypted.
The market is only going to get bigger as NVDIMMs become more widespread. Storage class memory and NVRAMs of all kinds are vulnerable to attacks less complex than cold boot attacks, Cold boot attacks are why DRAM benefits from encryption.
Simply removing an NVDIMM with all of its gigabytes of nonvolatile storage, containing unencrypted sensitive data, then putting it in a different machine to extract it is a lot easier than freezing normal DRAM and cold boot attacking.
Intel tried something similar but its a failure because it was incorrectly implemented.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/07/eggheads_slip_a_note_under_intels_door_sgx_can_leak_crypto_keys/
Loophole35
You seem to know more about it than I do. If what you say is true then these CPU's will be a raging success. That will be good for AMD as it looks like their Radeon brand just committed sepiku.
