AdoredTV........ Are you ok bro?? I think you need to talk to that "leaker" o_O Anyhow, that 12 core CPU looks amazing, for $499 you get a 12 core 24 thread CPU @ 4.6GHz with a stupid amount of cache, 15% better IPC than previous gen, all within a 105W TDP!! This basically means that any X370 boards that supports the 2700X should support this chip easily. Either way, that will be a day one buy from me! EDIT: Maybe they are holding back the 16 core CPU that has been rumoured so much, maybe that will have a 5GHz boost on 1 or 2 cores. They are probably holding something back to see what Intel counters with.

3700X here we come

I don't think Intel can counter. They got nothing. They have been on Skylake since 2015 and will be on it for 2 more years.. They desperately need to move on to a new node and get more performance/watt but can't. So all they do now is 'boost clock rates' while the truth lies in the fact you'd never be able to hold those clock rates for more than 2 seconds at the chips supposed TDP.

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DW75:

That R9 3900X is looking mighty tasty. It is a shame though that here in Canada, the price is going to suck. It is going to end up costing 750-800 Canadian after tax here, which is bullshit. Not too impressed about that at all.

The Core i7 9900K is 580$MSRP and we pay 650$CAD before tax. See for yourself: https://www.newegg.ca/core-i9-9th-gen-intel-core-i9-9900k/p/N82E16819117957 With QC tax, it's 747.50$CAD. So, I would imagine ~80-100$ less for the R9 3900X. Give or take. Since the R9 3900X is 499$MSRP. So, not as much as you are giving out to be.

I didn't expect Ryzen7 to keep 8 cores, instead of going for 12. Leaks also got it wrong. Only Ryzen9 is 12 cores.

sverek:

The price is a bit higher than previous leak. Maybe cause of different region. Not sure if 3850x will fit into $499 or go up to $599. However, price trend is matching with models, so it hints on some similarity between leaks.

+--  MODEL  ---+- Cores -+- USD -+ USD prev leak +
|Ryzen 3 3300  |  6 / 12 |  $118 |  $99          |
|Ryzen 3 3300X |  6 / 12 |  $145 |  $129         |
|Ryzen 3 3300G |  6 / 12 |  $145 |  $129         |
|Ryzen 5 3600  |  8 / 16 |  $200 |  $179         |
|Ryzen 5 3600X |  8 / 16 |  $258 |  $229         |
|Ryzen 5 3600G |  8 / 16 |  $224 |  $199         |
|Ryzen 7 3700  | 12 / 24 |  $336 |  $299         |
|Ryzen 7 3700X | 12 / 24 |  $370 |  $329         |
|Ryzen 9 3800X | 16 / 32 |  $506 |  $449         |
|Ryzen 9 3850X | 16 / 32 |  $562 |  $499         |
+--------------+---------+-------+---------------+

previous leaks imgs: [spoiler] https://blogs.forbes.com/antonyleather/files/2019/01/ryzen-3000-1.jpg https://i0.wp.com/www.pcbuildersclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ryzen-3000-Specs-Leak.png [/spoiler]

Mundosold:

I don't think Intel can counter. They got nothing. They have been on Skylake since 2015 and will be on it for 2 more years.. They desperately need to move on to a new node and get more performance/watt but can't. So all they do now is 'boost clock rates' while the truth lies in the fact you'd never be able to hold those clock rates for more than 2 seconds at the chips supposed TDP.

They got nothing to counter until we know the performance of Matisse for gaming. "First 12 cores gaming CPU" is not very encouraging.

So the 5 Ghz mantra is still out of reach even on 7 nm??? Thunders and strikes!!! Meanwhile at intel: https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-to-release-core-i9-9900ks-processor-runs-5-ghz-on-all-eight-cores.html So the "leaks" were false or a big marketing campaign and also nobody "leaked" the 9900ks - it just appeared from thin air...hmm Now before amd fanboys hitting back in anger these are very good times for us the consumers: finally intel has an opponent and they will have to think twice before setting the price on their premium CPU's. The TDP for all the AMD 7 nm family seems kind of high - in the 14 nm range from intel + x570 chipset needs active cooling but of course Dr. Su is adorable like always.

oh your god, this is it

Canadians whining about prices is hilarious.

With its improved IPC, AMD probably decided the 12 core is enough to counter Intel at this time. Although it was possible to get those 16 cores, much like Intel did for so many years AMD held back because of the lack of competition in this segment.

sverek:

They got nothing to counter until we know the performance of Matisse for gaming. "First 12 cores gaming CPU" is not very encouraging.

They have stated the gaming performance of the X3800 is on par with that of the 9900K... which if you include the clocks and IPC gain would be around 5GHz equivelent to Intels. The X3700 was on par gaming wise with the 9700K the X3700 boosts to 4.4GHz while the 9700K boosts to 4.9GHz, while beating it in multi core workloads which for a 65w part is impressive So although they have not hit the 5GHz mark the fact they can perform while being 500-600Mhz lower clocked isn't bad at all. GHz isn't everything.

Dazz:

They have stated the gaming performance of the X3800 is on par with that of the 9900K... which if you include the clocks and IPC gain would be around 5.1GHz equivelent to Intels.

As great as Zen2 shapes up to be, I want to see numbers first. For the price, it's already winner as it been.

I want to see hilbert review on the 3900x, i want to see real gaming benches if it beats intel.

im definitly swapping my 2700x for either the 3800x or 3900x, depends on price here in canada, it ll be time to swap my 1080ti and my m2 ssd into my ryzen system and game on it... good buy mighty 7700k at 5.05ghz.

sverek:

"First 12 cores gaming CPU" is not very encouraging.

that can be interpreted in many different ways i mean for the 3800x to be faster it means the 9900k HAS to bottleneck the Gpu even a bit ...as far none of the cpu's bottleneck the card ...then the gaming performance is the same

What's with Canadians whining when they still got it better than 90% of the world. Anyways a bit disappointing but let's see the reviews in 6 weeks.

@Hilbert Hagedoorn Do steal one and take it back home to your lab so we can get some benches asap 😉

I gotta say I guessed this better than the AdoredTV leaks. I had a really good feeling that the 3700X would remain an 8 core and that it wouldn't MSRP below $300. I suspected that $499 would be 12 core and not 16 core CPU. I also figured that Ryzen would not jump to 5 Ghz as Zen to Zen + was a small step in clocks and IPC. And why did I feel that the prices would result this way? Well as I said months ago, $300 9900K performance is a bargain. AMD is a business and they need to make money on their CPUs. There was no way in hell they were going to launch Zen 2 at 8 core $200 prices when the competition is nowhere near that figure. Same for 6 core parts as it is the price drops on existing Ryzen parts are amazing. $329 and $399 is even under cutting Intel currently at $480-$500 for 8 core 16 thread piece that runs hotter and draws more juice. Especially with AMD adding PCIE 4.0 as well they have all they need to be plenty competitive and currently lack the security threats Intel is dealing with. Why anyone was believe the AdoredTV leak is beyond me. Anyways can't wait to compare 3700X or 3800X to my current 2700X and my 9900K. Although I may just grab a 3900X. Curious what we will see for overclocking I am sure in typical Ryzen fashion we won't see much of a clock increase but overall the architectural changes combined with higher clocks should be great. Will AMD become my new everyday system? Can't wait to find out. If high refresh gaming is no longer compromised than I believe so.

Netherwind:

@Hilbert Hagedoorn Do steal one and take it back home to your lab so we can get some benches asap 😉

+1 I still hold all opinions until HH's tests them. 😀 *But just in case anyone is interested in an Asrock Z370 Ex4(fairchild) with a nice 8700k 5G@1.25v let me know. Also optional 2x8GB 4266C19 GS TridZ.