Not surprised.

Who doesn't like free money?

Unfortunately, AMD did release mobile CPUs after leak been confirmed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:AMD_Ryzen_Mobile So yeah, that one might be annoying. Do lawers just toss money in their pocket, or they clients (AMD clients) to share with?

Well, at least how it reads, it's in the name of shareholders. I guess it's about how much they get when selling their stocks now. Not sure how that works in detail when it comes to compensation. The only thing I'm sure of is that the lawyers get their money, no matter what.

Well, that's fair. AMD lied. Cheap moves against Intel got back at them like a boomerang. Karma is a bitch huh?

Unbelievable.

Stormyandcold:

Unbelievable.

What's unbelievable about that?

warlord:

Well, that's fair. AMD lied. Cheap moves against Intel got back at them like a boomerang. Karma is a bitch huh?

What AMD lied about?? Honest question, not trolling like someone

Significant loss yet AMD stocks are higher now than they have been in quite a while 😛

kruno:

What AMD lied about?? Honest question, not trolling like someone

You could read the article, you know...

Stormyandcold:

Unbelievable.

kruno:

What AMD lied about?? Honest question, not trolling like someone

This AMD worshiping on computer hardware websites needs to stop, it's getting out of hand. "AMD is the best, they can do no wrong, they are so consumer friendly, they care about the little guy" I see this nonsense constantly. AMD isn't your buddy, it's not a person. It's just a giant corporation like any other, they couldn't care less about you, so why do you care so much about a faceless corporation? If they are getting sued chances are high it's not without reason.

Glottiz:

This AMD worshiping on computer hardware websites needs to stop, it's getting out of hand. "AMD is the best, they can do no wrong, they are so consumer friendly, they care about the little guy" I see this nonsense constantly. AMD isn't your buddy, it's not a person. It's just a giant corporation like any other, they couldn't care less about you, so why do you care so much about a faceless corporation? If they are getting sued chances are high it's not without reason.

I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that anyone's worshipping AMD in this thread. Maybe calm down, you're creating conflict where there's no ground for it. As for the news, this smells like a cheap jab on what AMD said with the purpose of making some money.

Glottiz:

This AMD worshiping on computer hardware websites needs to stop, it's getting out of hand. "AMD is the best, they can do no wrong, they are so consumer friendly, they care about the little guy" I see this nonsense constantly. AMD isn't your buddy, it's not a person. It's just a giant corporation like any other, they couldn't care less about you, so why do you care so much about a faceless corporation? If they are getting sued chances are high it's not without reason.

Some people love their black and white world, where you need to have a good and a bad guy... forget it, people have been hardcore fanboys of different companies for a long time.

Ken Hagan from the comments of this article on The Register:

...[URL='https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/18/mozilla_secure_contexts_edict/'] The defendants are essentially arguing that the damage to the wider public (caused by early disclosure) is less important than letting them sell shares early. This has two flaws. The first is that had the disclosure been made, the share price would have fallen, almost certainly before *they* personally had time to sell. The second is that by recklessly causing a zero-day disclosure, *they* would presumably be the target of other people's litigation. It is really hard to see how the world would be a better place for these people if they win.[/URL]

...and reading the reports of this whole thing in its entirety, that's basically what this is: people who wished for premature disclosure before mitigations were in place just so that they could profit, damned be the security impact of a disclosed exploit with no protections ready.

well the linked article on theregister is gone , guess i wont be reading that lol, not sure how they are gonna prove amd did anything wrong, spectre isn't even based on a hw bug, its the consquence of how the effected processors function normally. and amd chose its words very carefully, when speaking about it . hard to say how this will go.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/17/amd_investors_sue_over_chip_flaw_silence/ Only article I found, but it does not contain the above quote.

warlord:

Well, that's fair. AMD lied. Cheap moves against Intel got back at them like a boomerang. Karma is a bitch huh?

This.

Glottiz:

This AMD worshiping on computer hardware websites needs to stop, it's getting out of hand. "AMD is the best, they can do no wrong, they are so consumer friendly, they care about the little guy" I see this nonsense constantly. AMD isn't your buddy, it's not a person. It's just a giant corporation like any other, they couldn't care less about you, so why do you care so much about a faceless corporation? If they are getting sued chances are high it's not without reason.

And some of this, from both sides. Since Ryzen release AMD worship has been out in full market force. Sometimes Intel has their people out. I have no idea why users want to treat tech companies like sports team hysteria. AMD did try and deny they were affected by variant 1 and 2 (Spectre). In a year we will likely find out they are vulnerable to variant 3 (Meltdown). For days AMD and the fans said only variant one because AMD used the term "near zero" to describe vulnerability to variant 2. "Near zero" is not "zero". All of this are near zero risk scenarios; that was just misleading semantics. What I don't get is this: why are tech companies always so vulnerable to lawsuits for exploitable flaws? The end user must also take steps to invite that exploit - this stuff doesn't happen logging online to check your bank statement or write a word doc.

xIcarus:

I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that anyone's worshipping AMD in this thread. Maybe calm down, you're creating conflict where there's no ground for it. As for the news, this smells like a cheap jab on what AMD said with the purpose of making some money.

By reading this thread and the equivalent Intel thread from a week ago? I don't really see how someone can read those and NOT come to that conclusion. The third comment in this thread is a comment implying that this is an illegitimate suite made by a greedy individual out to get money. The first comment in the Intel thread is essentially "good for them! Teach that evil Intel a lesson! We should all boycott their products until they stop being evil!". Maybe you could say that's just one individual's opinion but it's not. If you look at the comments in both thread there is an consensus in both threads about the intentions of both parties. And this is based solely on an assumption determined by the name of the company in question (as that's the only difference between the two stories). I mean come on man, you can't honestly read those comments and say with a straight face that you don't see what he's talking about. And it's not like this is anything new either. Go back and look at the comment sections on every Intel/AMD related article these past few years (especially since Ryzen came out), the pattern is clear as day in all of them. If the company being accused is Intel they are assumed guilty, if it's AMD they are assumed innocent. Even when evidence exists that contradicts this but especially when there isn't any evidence one way or the other. It's clearly some kind of brand loyalty thing and as someone who builds systems with both brands and doesn't have any particular loyalty to any particular company it just bugs the hell out of me to see it so pervasive here and in many other PC hardware communities. Is he making a big deal about this and probably going to end up starting a flame war in this thread? Yeah, probably. But it needs to stop and pointing it out is the only way I see that ever happening so I'm all for it. Edit: Ok I take back that part I said about the consensus in this thread. Some people are starting to read the article and point out that AMD was definitely in the wrong this time. I'm happy to see that. Perhaps things are finally going to change and people are going to start taking to time to read and articles and wait for evidence before jumping to conclusions. At least I hope so. The conspiracy theorist stuff in the Intel thread is still pretty bad though and I'm amazed more people didn't come forward to point that out.

Scumbag lawyers.

NaturalViolence:

Edit: Ok I take back that part I said about the consensus in this thread. Some people are starting to read the article and point out that AMD was definitely in the wrong this time. I'm happy to see that. Perhaps things are finally going to change and people are going to start taking to time to read and articles and wait for evidence before jumping to conclusions. At least I hope so. The conspiracy theorist stuff in the Intel thread is still pretty bad though and I'm amazed more people didn't come forward to point that out.

fantaskarsef:

Some people love their black and white world, where you need to have a good and a bad guy... forget it, people have been hardcore fanboys of different companies for a long time.

Why fight windmills? Opinions are opinions after all, we don't have to agree with everybody.