Affordable AMD AM5 motherboards based on A620 chipset due to arrive soon
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Eno9
They need 70$ affordable motherboards if they want to attract more customers to the AMD5 platform, 125$ is still too expensive for an entry LV motherboard!
Horus-Anhur
I wonder what has been cut from this chipset.
PCI-e Gen5 support? USB lanes? OC support?
vestibule
The mobo's need to be sub £100 and then the likes of MSI come to the rescue with a custom bios to enable a much board functionality as possible.
Alessio1989
125 for lowest tier mb is all but cheap.-
Venix
Considering that around 140 was the b550 tomahawk witch yeah it was lacking in I/o but it was a very solid board as far you do not need more than 8 USB ... Hell my mortar b550 wifi cost me 143
Undying
Motherboards are the real issue building a am5 system.
I remember when i bought x570 for 200$. Those ware the times amd was getting some ground and now when they have it prices skyrocketed.
cucaulay malkin
pcie5 was cut from 650 already, even 350eur boards don't have pcie5 16x. Weird, cause some b660s at 220eur already had it.
Undying
You need x670-E to have pcie5 if im not mistaken.
Yosif Videlov
B650E also have pcie5 on the GPU PCIe 16x slot not that you'll need it soon anyway:
cucaulay malkin
I thought x670 had it.
I am pretty shocked, I checked x670 aorus elite and it only has 4.0, it's a 350eur board ffs
4.0 belongs on sub 200e, even a 210eur b660 strix-a has 5.0 16x
doorspaulo
> Affordable AMD AM5 motherboards
> Perhaps $125 USD
bruh
Silva
Let's be real: no one needs PCIe5.0
And no one is willing to pay those prices either.
Why no good boards under 200€ with PCIe4.0?
Undying
But you will need it in the future. Thats why smart buyers think ahead. Next gen nvme drives and gpus will use pcie5.
cucaulay malkin
no you won't, nand and controller matter a lot more
people got suckered into buying early pcie4 drives, now they're being beaten in loading times by recent pcie3 budget nvmes using newer nand.
all that matters for nvme is the number of connectors. if they're pcie4 it's already more than you'll need.
schmidtbag
Highly unlikely any time soon. We're a long way away from saturating PCIe 4.0 under realistic workloads.
I agree with @Silva that it'd be nice to have cheaper boards with 4.0. It's stupid to pay 3 figures on a budget desktop board.
Horus-Anhur
That is true today.
But AM5 is supposed to last 5 years. That is one of the key points AMD made about the platform.
A couple of years from now, we'll have Gen5 as standard on all GPUs.
And let us remember that AMD likes to cut on PCI-e lanes on mid and low range GPUs. So having Gen5 will become very important.
Undying
I can already see gen5 gpus with 8x pcie lanes. 😀
Yosif Videlov
Yeah maybe RTX 7090Ti will be able to saturate PCIe 4.0 x16 so you might see some fps difference with 5.0 but in reality it is just a marketing trick for the next 4-5 years. On the other hand for Nvme pcie 5 it will make more sense in the near future.
schmidtbag
PCIe is backward compatible. You may be right that 5.0 will be standard in a couple years, that doesn't at all mean it is going to be saturated, let alone necessary.
The real push for newer PCIe generations is for servers. So long as you have enough VRAM, GPUs hardly use any PCIe bandwidth during gaming, especially if you're using DX12 or Vulkan.
Horus-Anhur
It will be saturated if AMD limits the amount of lanes. Remember that the 6600 had only 8X. And the 6500 only had 4X.
I'm pretty sure we'll get a repeat of the same issues a couple of years from now.
And with things like Direct Storage, having more bandwidth will improve things a lot.
DX12 and Vulkan don't reduce usage of PCI-e bandwidth. The things that do are techs tile based rendering, GPU caches, object instancing, memory compression, etc.
