Add 1 GHz Tweak on non K model Skylake processors after BIOS upgrade

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WFT, BCLK working stable up to 127MHz just via BIOS update/tweak!? I thought OC via raising BCLK was dead after LGA1366/1156 era. Someone (read: CPU and mobo manufacturers) were obviously hiding something from us OC'ers for all these years, since LGA1155 release, to gain some extra profit on K CPU's and "real OC capable chipsets/mobos (OC via multiplier)" like P68/Z68/Z77... and later :realmad:
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WFT, BCLK working stable up to 127MHz just via BIOS update/tweak!? I thought OC via raising BCLK was dead after LGA1366/1156 era. Someone (read: CPU and mobo manufacturers) were obviously hiding something from us OC'ers for all these years, since LGA1155 release, to gain some extra profit on K CPU's and "real OC capable chipsets/mobos (OC via multiplier)" like P68/Z68/Z77... and later :realmad:
Not quite. On previous generations they tied the BCLK to other subsystems such as the PCIe clock etc Ringbus to be correct. But this seems like a nice improvement! Budget gaming here we come! Might just upgrade the "Mac" to Skylake now and OC it a bit :banana:
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@ spajdrik & Twiddles I know on Skylake's BCLK and PCIe are not tied same way like on previous generations of CPU's past LGA1366/1156 and up to Skylake. I just didn't expressed myself in right way on my previous post: I was suspecting that BCLK OC on previous CPU generations was somehow limited for puprose and that "BLCK-PCIe tied excuse" was just excuse to enable some extra profit both for: a) Intel selling K CPU's and chipsets capable for multiplier change b) mobo manufacturers selling more expencive mobos with chipsets capable for OC ...to us OC entusiasts willing to spend more money on OC capable HW. Just remember not so long ago Non-Z OC affair about H87 and B85 chipsets who were by Intel specs "uncapable for multiplier change" and suddenly bam!, just via BIOS update some H87 and B85 mobos were capable for OC paired with K CPU's. Just wondering how many OC features CPU/chipset and mobo manufacturers are hiding from our eyes i.e. we are now aware about just to force us entusiast to burn more money into OC capable hardware :3eyes: Oh God, how I miss that time whan we were happy like pig in a mud while OC'ing our cheap ass Celeron 300A to 450MHz and more matching performance of much more expencive PII 450MHz... Now... where the hell is my thinfoil hat.... 😀
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Seems like Intel is adding worth to the cheaper CPUs, and also the rich men can buy their 10 core CPUs, but more regular gamers with their i5 and i7 K processors don't get anything. No, in fact i5 K CPUs have steadily seen their default clock lag further and further behind the i7. When I built this PC, i5-3570K and i7-3770K had almost the same default (and turbo) clock, but now (with 6xxx series) there's a huge difference between them. You can really see the CPU world is all screwed when AMD can't get their stuff together. Hopefully a year from now things will be different with Zen.
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This shows how much Intel holds out on us just to upcharge K series.
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@ spajdrik & Twiddles I know on Skylake's BCLK and PCIe are not tied same way like on previous generations of CPU's past LGA1366/1156 and up to Skylake. I just didn't expressed myself in right way on my previous post: I was suspecting that BCLK OC on previous CPU generations was somehow limited for puprose and that "BLCK-PCIe tied excuse" was just excuse to enable some extra profit both for: a) Intel selling K CPU's and chipsets capable for multiplier change b) mobo manufacturers selling more expencive mobos with chipsets capable for OC ...to us OC entusiasts willing to spend more money on OC capable HW. Just remember not so long ago Non-Z OC affair about H87 and B85 chipsets who were by Intel specs "uncapable for multiplier change" and suddenly bam!, just via BIOS update some H87 and B85 mobos were capable for OC paired with K CPU's. Just wondering how many OC features CPU/chipset and mobo manufacturers are hiding from our eyes i.e. we are now aware about just to force us entusiast to burn more money into OC capable hardware :3eyes: Oh God, how I miss that time whan we were happy like pig in a mud while OC'ing our cheap ass Celeron 300A to 450MHz and more matching performance of much more expencive PII 450MHz... Now... where the hell is my thinfoil hat.... 😀
Aaaah that explains a lot 😀 And tinkering with the "unlocked" motherboards (Haswell gens) was a lot of fun, Intel was pretty pissed about it. If you like that you'll like this too -> LINK
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1.632v on Skylake? That chip will be dead in matter of days.
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The whole K vs Non K cpu were created to a make more money off the minority of people that OC there CPU VS the people that dont OC, I dont find any of this shocking, also wouldnt be shocked if intel gets "upset" over this. None the less it a good thing for consumers.
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Processors Just shows you how much they are dumbing down these processors to make a demand.
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K Models are not only unlocked multi but they are meant to be cherry picked or binned higher up than non K models. Intel doesn't just stick a K on the end of a named chip and sell it for a premium. K chips are binned on 3 strict tests. Heat CPU/Cores. Power Usage/draw and Overclocking potential while also looking at the first two. It's such a broad brush stroke that say an i7 6700K alone can have a large range within that one chip. Some poor fracker will get low end i7 6700K's while the lucky one will get an overclocking beast. This is why some companies in the UK will stress test/OC all their CPU's and sell them @ a premium if they are good overclockers. This then guarantees you get a chip which hits a certain level of overclock like 5Ghz. This then removes that "Lucky Dip" process we all here hate and go through while buying these high end CPUs. The extra premium is then justified and is only about £10 more which i think is well worth it.
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that's stuff just for fun..benc & OC,not all people do that btw non-K with those oc speed awsome:)
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This shows how much Intel holds out on us just to upcharge K series.
*Shrug* I upgraded to an I7-6700k and it is worth the cost. I could have gone the 5820k path for about the same cost but, I also wanted the latest chipset tech that was available. Honestly, people really enjoy complaining so much, it is almost like a sport to them.
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K Models are not only unlocked multi but they are meant to be cherry picked or binned higher up than non K models. Intel doesn't just stick a K on the end of a named chip and sell it for a premium. K chips are binned on 3 strict tests. Heat CPU/Cores. Power Usage/draw and Overclocking potential while also looking at the first two. It's such a broad brush stroke that say an i7 6700K alone can have a large range within that one chip. Some poor fracker will get low end i7 6700K's while the lucky one will get an overclocking beast. This is why some companies in the UK will stress test/OC all their CPU's and sell them @ a premium if they are good overclockers. This then guarantees you get a chip which hits a certain level of overclock like 5Ghz. This then removes that "Lucky Dip" process we all here hate and go through while buying these high end CPUs. The extra premium is then justified and is only about £10 more which i think is well worth it.
While this is true, what Gen Techa said is also true. At times, companies like Intel, AMD, and NVidia will take what could have been a premium hardware and cut it down to a slower version anyway to make the demand for lower end parts. It's in these cases that you see mid-grade hardware get crazy high overclocks.
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K Models are not only unlocked multi but they are meant to be cherry picked or binned higher up than non K models. Intel doesn't just stick a K on the end of a named chip and sell it for a premium. K chips are binned on 3 strict tests. Heat CPU/Cores. Power Usage/draw and Overclocking potential while also looking at the first two.
They're not "cherry picked" to be better, they go through basic testing to make sure they meet minimum requirements. That testing you mentioned is as basic as it gets, they don't go through anything meticulous to pick out better chips to be labeled as K. Yes they do just stick a K on the name and sell it for a premium. I'll tell you what cherry picked is, the samples they sent to reviewers which all magically reached 4.7-5GHz on air (particularly Haswell) with absolutely no trouble while many of the "same" chips sold couldn't reach 4.2GHz and almost none reach over 4.4GHz without insane voltage. For mine to hold at 4.5 I use more voltage than any of those review samples used for 4.8 to 5GHz. Most people I know can't reach more than 4.2GHz on 4770Ks.
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If this is a true, that is only another nail in the coffin for AMD.
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Intel want to push new Skylake(Skynet?) sells up so they approve to make non-K version to be OC. Everything is a bussiness,everything is a lie.
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Intel want to push new Skylake(Skynet?) sells up so they approve to make non-K version to be OC. Everything is a bussiness,everything is a lie.
oh you are learning.... just remember what you said goes for all things computer related cpus gpus motherboards memory os's and games.
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They're not "cherry picked" to be better, they go through basic testing to make sure they meet minimum requirements. That testing you mentioned is as basic as it gets, they don't go through anything meticulous to pick out better chips to be labeled as K. Yes they do just stick a K on the name and sell it for a premium. I'll tell you what cherry picked is, the samples they sent to reviewers which all magically reached 4.7-5GHz on air (particularly Haswell) with absolutely no trouble while many of the "same" chips sold couldn't reach 4.2GHz and almost none reach over 4.4GHz without insane voltage. For mine to hold at 4.5 I use more voltage than any of those review samples used for 4.8 to 5GHz. Most people I know can't reach more than 4.2GHz on 4770Ks.
True. Guess I got lucky with my 4770k @ 4.7Ghz 1.284v, cache 4.2Ghz 1.15v 🤓