1usmus working on new tuning tool for Zen 3(+) processors - Project Hydra
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Sylwester ZarΔbski
Hail Hydra!
Sorry, couldn't resist ;-)
Undying
Another useless ryzen overclocking tool.
patteSatan
He does things people wants, that are not quite good at overclocking themselves, so I salute him.
D1stRU3T0R
i was waiting for a comment like this, didn't took so long π
Its not useless, you can make something good with it, but it just depends on the end user.
Undying
Isnt it easier going into the bios and doing that by yourself?
cucaulay malkin
bios oc is so last decade
I tweak everything in xtu if possible
and you can have OC and UV presets loaded without restarting
you'll never achieve both lowest vcore for load and lowest vcore for idle on the same setting.
but you can make both manually and load them with a click.
Undying
I grow up with a quote "dont overclock and update your bios in windows" so i'll stick with good old bios. π
cucaulay malkin
that's just a stupid saying tbh
Undying
Yeah times has changed. Tried his memory overclocking tool before and didnt work for me
tunejunky
lol i resemble that remark
Mineria
I never update a BIOS from Windows, to much that can go wrong even today.
Also don't like having to much running in the background, so setting as much as possible in BIOS, when using tools from within Windows it always tends to break with one or another update.
JamesSneed
The undervlot option will be good for many people. These 5000 series chips will push them selves to the wall on power. I manually changed the PBO settings to reduce the PPT, TDC, EDC and then tweaked the voltage curve a negative 30 and man my 5800x produces so much less heat. I average about 10c lower temps now. My Cinebench 20 score is 1.5% lower than Guru3D's 5800x review and I'm using Noctua NH-D15 air cooling.
Speaking of if your CPU can do it reducing the voltage via the curve optimizer setting can actually yield higher sustained boost clocks as it leaves more headroom. This is what got me the performance back after reducing the voltage limits.
schmidtbag
Even back when I used Windows, I wouldn't use any OC/tuning tools. You're increasing variables in an inherently unstable task - you're just increasing the chances of things going wrong and slowing down your refinement. Making your tweaks in BIOS and then using memtest86 to check stability is a safer approach to maximize performance. I use memtest because if that fails after a complete run, your overclock is definitely unstable. I don't recall the last time I had an unstable overclock that passed memtest.
When it comes to GPU overclocking, I will try to do that in the OS first so I can fine-tune where the instability is. Then when I know I've got a stable OC, I flash the VBIOS so I don't have to depend on another process.
cucaulay malkin
totally unnecessary and unnecessarily risky imo
btw the way modern frequency boost works,and taking into account ambient temperature swings,it's completely irrelevant.
schmidtbag
Not if you make backups...
cucaulay malkin
the way modern frequency boost works,and taking into account ambient temperature swings,it's completely irrelevant.
the settings I use in the summer crash in the wintertime just cause the ambient temp is 10-15 degrees lower and the card boosts higher,where it's not supposed to.
CrazY_Milojko
^^^^ Couldn't argee more, that's the way I've been OCing for years (decades), same method, it never failed on me.
That's why "real men" are doing OC + stability testing only in hot summer days, only in underwear, AC turned off, room with closed doors and windows, sweat evaporation all over the place... ask @chispy if you don't believe π Honestly, for OC stability testing purpose I prefer to keep room temperature a bit higher than normal 20-22C: around 28 Celsius. If OC passes @ 28C it'll never fail on 20-22C.
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I understand what you're trying to say. Guess I'm lucky on that side of OC because all of our OCed Pascal based cards in gaming rigs, as you already said, do boost higher during winter days but no stability issues here, not a single one. Guess a bit more agressive custom GPU fan curve via MSI AB here on my side takes care of that.
Corbus
Strictly from my experience,CTR has helped me a lot and i find it extremely useful and easy to use,it has reduced my temps a lot(noise level with it as well) 1.375v max voltage peak down from almost 1.48v,measured with hwinfo64.
Tried lowering the voltage this much through the bios,manually,but never got it stable,no crashes or anything just lower scores/fps than when using CTR.
I miss the old days of overclocking when there was no boost,especially for GPUs but nowadays i'm too lazy to fiddle with the bios,and even if i still had the patience i'm sure i wouldn't accomplish what CTR is doing in terms of stability.
Zooke
As someone who is currently working on my 5950x curve, I can appreciate anything that will make it easier.
It's taking me so long because I'm just doing a few single core curve adjustments a day, with a simple quick prime95 test on that core and a few hours general usage to test stability.
Currently at -12 core 2, -18 all the others. Trying to do it all in one go was just to big a job on a pc I use all day, hence settling for the protracted but easier to manage couple of adjustments a day routine.
SpajdrEX
I still remember using ClockTuner, following all required steps to do, just to see the results which ended in 20% CPU performance decrease π
