10 Gbps Down and 1 Gbps Upstream Compatibility Coming to Cable Modems

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#5487684
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My body is ready!
#5487699
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This is great but ISPs are gonna charge an arm and a leg and a left nut for it. If we actually had impartial officials in places like the FCC and FTC we may see very different pricing models among broadband providers. What "should" have been happening all these years is that as new speed tiers were made possible through new protocols and specs, old tiers should have been phased out and the new tiers replaced existing ones at the same price points as people have been paying. In today's world there's no reason why providers couldn't offer a 10Mb download package for $10 per month as an entry-level broadband subscription. It's sad that at least a small handful of providers haven't figured this out yet. It would be easy to market it in a way that would be very attractive to consumers when compared against other, greedier ISPs. Instead they're all going for the cash grab and price gouging their customers.
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MDSwish:

This is great but ISPs are gonna charge an arm and a leg and a left nut for it. If we actually had impartial officials in places like the FCC and FTC we may see very different pricing models among broadband providers. What "should" have been happening all these years is that as new speed tiers were made possible through new protocols and specs, old tiers should have been phased out and the new tiers replaced existing ones at the same price points as people have been paying. In today's world there's no reason why providers couldn't offer a 10Mb download package for $10 per month as an entry-level broadband subscription. It's sad that at least a small handful of providers haven't figured this out yet. It would be easy to market it in a way that would be very attractive to consumers when compared against other, greedier ISPs. Instead they're all going for the cash grab and price gouging their customers.
On the downside of things, as internet provider speeds increase the providers are also phasing in datacaps of <=1TB/month. This seems like a lot until you factor in 4K (or better) video streams.
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That is if your country uses docsis... 🙁
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MDSwish:

This is great but ISPs are gonna charge an arm and a leg and a left nut for it. If we actually had impartial officials in places like the FCC and FTC we may see very different pricing models among broadband providers. What "should" have been happening all these years is that as new speed tiers were made possible through new protocols and specs, old tiers should have been phased out and the new tiers replaced existing ones at the same price points as people have been paying. In today's world there's no reason why providers couldn't offer a 10Mb download package for $10 per month as an entry-level broadband subscription. It's sad that at least a small handful of providers haven't figured this out yet. It would be easy to market it in a way that would be very attractive to consumers when compared against other, greedier ISPs. Instead they're all going for the cash grab and price gouging their customers.
This! The only ISP in my area offering decent speeds for price is Spectrum. 300/25 for around $75 for residential. Go a bit south where i currently live and all I can get is 125/5 for $78. I'm stuck with it too, the ISP in my area has all telco on lockdown. Soooooo i have to eat it.
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Network bandwidth and the speed has not been the issue for some time already. The issue is that they don't know what to do with already attainable network speeds. For example, you can get by these days with 50/10 Mbps, and 200/100 Mbps connection is already getting you 50 GB download from Steam in half an hour. Imagine that you are CEO of TCom. You can invest in 10 Gbps network, but how are you going to mass sell it, to whom?
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Noisiv:

Network bandwidth and the speed has not been the issue for some time already. The issue is that they don't know what to do with already attainable network speeds. For example, you can get by these days with 50/10 Mbps, and 200/100 Mbps connection is already getting you 50 GB download from Steam in half an hour. Imagine that you are CEO of TCom. You can invest in 10 Gbps network, but how are you going to mass sell it, to whom?
That's a chicken and egg argument. There is limited use for high bandwidth connections, because nobody develops uses for high bandwidth connections, because nobody has high bandwidth connections, because there is limited use for... Until someone breaks the cycle, it will remain true. As someone who has gigabit in a house of 4 heavy internet users, I can definitely tell you that if you can get 1 gig for near the price of 50mbit, you will definitely not want to go back.
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Meanwhile I'm paying nearly $70/m for barely above DOCSYS 1.0 (1997) speeds in the year of 2017. 2/3 of the download speed 2/1 of the upload speed.
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illrigger:

That's a chicken and egg argument. There is limited use for high bandwidth connections, because nobody develops uses for high bandwidth connections, because nobody has high bandwidth connections, because there is limited use for... Until someone breaks the cycle, it will remain true. As someone who has gigabit in a house of 4 heavy internet users, I can definitely tell you that if you can get 1 gig for near the price of 50mbit, you will definitely not want to go back.
Oh im not going back to 50/10. 200/100 is perfect for me. 1 Gbps would be a problem, if imaginary only, because my ER-X lovely as it is, is only capable of 1 Gbps total(!)... So if I am downloading 800 Mbps, it can only upload 200 Mbps...I think.
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Noisiv:

Oh im not going back to 50/10. 200/100 is perfect for me. 1 Gbps would be a problem, if imaginary only, because my ER-X lovely as it is, is only capable of 1 Gbps total(!)... So if I am downloading 800 Mbps, it can only upload 200 Mbps...I think.
Im not going back either. $85 a month for 1GB up and 1GB down with no data cap. Even on wireless AC I can manage 225mb down and 315 up using my Nighthawk X6 as a range extender/bridge. I avg 22mb/s on steam and origin downloads. No buffering even on 4k videos on even youtube. Uploading gaming video is so damn awesome now. Before I had 250+/35. It took quite a long time to upload a 4GB+ gaming vid to youtube. Now it literally can be a matter of a few mins. i cant even make a sandwhich now before its done. Hooked up on wire directly downstairs, I got 115mb/s on steam downloading Doom 2016 on an SSD.
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Hilbert Hagedoorn:

Not everybody has access to fiber, so this is some pretty terrific news from the cable-modem front. The guys behind the DOCSIS standard has completed DOCSIS 3.1 Duplex specification. And it brings a ... 10 Gbps Down and 1 Gbps Upstream Compatibility Coming to Cable Modems
My heart bleeds for you all...... Think of Australia where we are still running on a hundred year old copper phone line network and our current government has forced us into a model where that is what we will rely on for another 50 or so years.......... We had a plan for fibre to (almost) every household in the nation, but................................... Fibre and cable are for a very select few who got connected before a new government was voted in and changed the plan.
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My modem seems to be Docsis 3.0 (or rather Eurodocsis according to the interface). I have had for years a 100/10 connection. It would be possible to upgrade to 350/20, for additional price naturally, but to be honest 100 Mbps does has been enough for me. Maybe if I was a heavy gamer, I'd feel the need to download from Steam even faster, let alone upload videos like Agonist, but since I buy games somewhat rarely and Arma 3's 1GB updates don't choke a 100 Mbps connection, I'm happy with the current speed. Especially with the actual speed always being very close to the advertised. In short this Docsis update doesn't currently mean much to me, whether the local cable operator upgrades to it or not.
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glutto:

Meanwhile I'm paying nearly $70/m for barely above DOCSYS 1.0 (1997) speeds in the year of 2017. 2/3 of the download speed 2/1 of the upload speed.
Sorry but... here's yet another example of how bad the telecommunications lack of competition is in the US. Even non-1st world countries have better speeds for less. And obviously almost any other 1st world country has much better speeds for less.
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heffeque:

Sorry but... here's yet another example of how bad the telecommunications lack of competition is in the US. Even non-1st world countries have better speeds for less. And obviously almost any other 1st world country has much better speeds for less.
I don't agree with you 100% i don't think that only the lack of competion is the problem. I think that the people to because they pay a large amount of money for low speeds ! See my country Romania, we pay max 10 US dolars for: Romania - Romania (distance 400 km): http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5738514810 Romania - UK: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5738517746 But we don't use DOCSIS. Still in our country we have a provider that uses DOCSIS and has ok speeds: D:469.11 Mb/s U: 25.33 Mb/s FOR like 12 US dolars.
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10 gig download speed, and i thought i was doing well with my 35 meg dl speed. lol
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The biggest problem that I have is the housing subdivision I live in only allows CenturyLink anywhere near the area. Comcast is available in the area but basically the property management company won't allow them in the complex. Honestly I don't think that's legal for them to restrict it like that. I'm going to do some research and see what legal remedies are available. CenturyLink only offers a max 10Mb connection through DSL. No fiber is available. Actual real world performance usually ends up being around 7-8Mb. It's awful.
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This is borderline old news. Well, not old insofar as FDX + 3.1 is certainly not being deployed yet, just old in that it was announced quite a while back. Many MSO's are already deploying DOCSIS 3.1 and from that technology they're already able to leverage gigabit download speeds. 1000/35 is becoming pretty common from cable operators in the US. Even if they don't hit gigabit, if you have anything above 200 mbps for a reasonable price it's pretty damn good when you think about it.
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Lol, Comcast already charges a small fortune for gigabit speeds. I'm sure it will take 5-10 years for them to even offer this speed to customers and when they do it will be unaffordable for most. When 4K streaming becomes more mainstream people are going to hit datacaps very fast and the amount people are charged for going over them will start to be a huge problem for them. I consistently hit 750GB-800GB a month just from gaming and Netflix/Amazon streaming.

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