10 Gbit switches from TP-Link show up at the webshops for 279 euros

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#5898104
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Little by little it start to be affortable for main consumer... It's a very good point. Now NAS will be able to comunicate fast with PC.
#5898112
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"Backwards compatible" seems like the correct term here but it is not, it is "Multigig" just fyi
#5898162
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They are also launching 2.5gbps switches, also with 5 and 8 ports, which are going to be considerably cheaper: https://www.tp-link.com/uk/business-networking/unmanaged-switch/tl-sg105-m2/v1/ https://www.tp-link.com/uk/business-networking/unmanaged-switch/tl-sg108-m2/v1/ Expecting under $100 for the 5-port x 2.5, and probably 150'ish or something for the 8-port. Note: 2.5gbps ethernet works over Cat5e, when re-cabling house/office is not possible. NICs with 2.5gbps are also very cheap (as low as $20 on Aliexpress), to add extra network speed to older computers that don't have it built-in
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wavetrex:

They are also launching 2.5gbps switches, also with 5 and 8 ports, which are going to be considerably cheaper: https://www.tp-link.com/uk/business-networking/unmanaged-switch/tl-sg105-m2/v1/ https://www.tp-link.com/uk/business-networking/unmanaged-switch/tl-sg108-m2/v1/ Expecting under $100 for the 5-port x 2.5, and probably 150'ish or something for the 8-port. Note: 2.5gbps ethernet works over Cat5e, when re-cabling house/office is not possible. NICs with 2.5gbps are also very cheap (as low as $20 on Aliexpress), to add extra network speed to older computers that don't have it built-in
2.5 is a waste, 10 is the way forward
#5898213
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"2.5 is a waste, 10 is the way forward" That's simply not true, 2.5 is a great way to bump network performance with little additional cost. 10 can work out considerably more expensive (and unnecessary) especially if you have 7-8 PCs & NAS to upgrade.
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Stairmand:

"2.5 is a waste, 10 is the way forward" That's simply not true, 2.5 is a great way to bump network performance with little additional cost. 10 can work out considerably more expensive (and unnecessary) especially if you have 7-8 PCs & NAS to upgrade.
But you buy cheap, you buy twice, long term 2.5 isn't hugely worth it over 1, especially if you can aggregate.
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What @insp1re2600 don't realize, is that HDD speeds are below the 2.5gbps network. Also, I've already had 2.5 in my house for almost 2 years now, via a heavily discounted rack switch ( $400, but I got it for $120 , cheaper than the price of these new TP-link switches... ), and it also has management, vlans, all the bells and whistles. It's amazing for removing the bottleneck of copying files from HDD to HDD between computers, which is what I do over the network most of the time. I can also download at my full internet speed ( 1gbit ) while also watching a movie or something from the NAS/Server without any network bottleneck. Why would I need to spend 3-5 times more in 10gbit, just to use it at 20% ... I don't know. (p.s. 2.5g is on-board, 10g I would need to pay 75 euro for the cheapest ASUS card that does 10g (multiple times), buy new 10g switch, plus rewire all my house with Cat6/7 which would be a huge effort) But hey, everyone is free to spend their money exactly where they want, I'll keep my 2.5g thankyouverymuch (and extend it with one of the cheap 2.5g switches)
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insp1re2600:

2.5 is a waste, 10 is the way forward
If I'm going to dump a bunch of money on device upgrades, it's going to be for a substantial upgrade and not baby steps. 2.5 and 5 are mostly for marketing purposes and to milk consumers. Very few people can make use of these and most customers buying them are going to do it just because the number is bigger and not understand how this all works.
#5898268
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wavetrex:

What @insp1re2600 don't realize, is that HDD speeds are below the 2.5gbps network. Also, I've already had 2.5 in my house for almost 2 years now, via a heavily discounted rack switch ( $400, but I got it for $120 , cheaper than the price of these new TP-link switches... ), and it also has management, vlans, all the bells and whistles.
that's quite the assumption there, I'm fully aware of hdd speeds and network speeds. you are also assuming read and write to and from a single host. while clients are also saturating it with video streams etc. As well as only having a single internet connection, which you may have more of. What about certain raid and thunderbolt storage setups? https://cdn.costumewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/hackerman.jpg
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insp1re2600:

But you buy cheap, you buy twice, long term 2.5 isn't hugely worth it over 1, especially if you can aggregate.
Huh? Link Ag doesn't make 1gbe faster, it just adds redundancy and helps with congestion. It's by no means a replacement for 2.5gbe
#5898293
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illrigger:

Huh? Link Ag doesn't make 1gbe faster, it just adds redundancy and helps with congestion. It's by no means a replacement for 2.5gbe
Certainly increases bandwidth and throughput.
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insp1re2600:

Certainly increases bandwidth and throughput.
But not for any one given host - no single host will get more than 1gbit. It only increases bandwidth when there is more than one host sending data simultaneously. And of course you can also use it on 2.5gbe if you still have congestion.
#5898309
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illrigger:

But not for any one given host - no single host will get more than 1gbit. It only increases bandwidth when there is more than one host sending data simultaneously. And of course you can also use it on 2.5gbe if you still have congestion.
Isn't that what NIC teaming does?
#5898310
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GSDragoon:

Isn't that what NIC teaming does?
The NICS would be teamed, then you'd use a protocol like LACP to aggregate the links but that isn't going to increase bandwidth from point to point. You'd want something like SMB Multichannel but even that isn't really as ideal for a whole bunch of reasons vs just getting 2.5/5/10gbe.
#5898312
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even 2.5g has been coming soon™ for years now, not too long ago I upgraded AP's and realized I was better off using the SECOND 5ghz wifi as backhaul between them instead of 1gbe, this is just plain stupid now
#5898379
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insp1re2600:

But you buy cheap, you buy twice, long term 2.5 isn't hugely worth it over 1, especially if you can aggregate.
A waste. What a silly comment that was.
#5898381
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theoneofgod:

A waste. What a silly comment that was.
Hardly, financially investing in 2.5 is a waste, and always has been.
#5898414
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@insp1re2600 we heard you, thank you. No need to repeat yourself over and over again like a broken record.
#5898415
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wavetrex:

@insp1re2600 we heard you, thank you. No need to repeat yourself over and over again like a broken record.
Twice? Did you run out of witty comebacks or decent information?
#5898440
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wavetrex:

What @insp1re2600 don't realize, is that HDD speeds are below the 2.5gbps network.
except they aren't.

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