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PowerColor Shows its Radeon VII With photos
Following ASRock and Sapphire, PowerColor now also outs their Radeon VII in a reference design. Word is that PowerColor will however release some custom models in the Devil series at one point.
The card shown is a reference product as well. It won't be much longer before we'll see the first product available for VEGA20, aka the Radeon VII. While it is still a little unknown if there will be custom AIB products we do know that the AIB will do an AIC, e.g. they will sell the reference products. Looking at the box we see the confirmed thing like a 7nm process, 16 GB HBM2 memory with a bandwidth of 1 TB per second and that Freesync 2 HDR support.
The manufacturer is listing card at a 1400 MHz engine clock with a Boost towards 1750 MHz. The card will be fitted with 1x HDMI 2.0b and 3x DisplayPort 1.4. The Vega II or Vega VII logo has now also been confirmed. The new graphics card should be on the shelves by February 7 and is priced at 699 USD.
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#5633419 Posted on: 01/30/2019 05:40 PM
I'm tired of the "let see how many fans we can cram on" design. What happened to sucking air in and exhausting it out the back? Now instead of one fan that might start going tick tick tick chinka chinka chinka we have those chances x3. I get this is a stop gap since lithography shrink is slowing thus we get more heat from gpus pushed farther but this doesn't seem pleasant for the consumer. Most people are buying from online stores and these things get just pummeled on their way to you.
I'm tired of the "let see how many fans we can cram on" design. What happened to sucking air in and exhausting it out the back? Now instead of one fan that might start going tick tick tick chinka chinka chinka we have those chances x3. I get this is a stop gap since lithography shrink is slowing thus we get more heat from gpus pushed farther but this doesn't seem pleasant for the consumer. Most people are buying from online stores and these things get just pummeled on their way to you.
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#5633425 Posted on: 01/30/2019 05:53 PM
You're actually complaining about the lack of use of blower style cooling?
I can understand the complaint as blower-style coolers dump the heat outside of the case but at the required TDP for these GPUs, it's just unsuitable from a noise level and thermal level. Just look at previous generations of coolers from AMD and Nvidia where TDPs were between 200w and 300w (Remember R9 290X? Those were awful, very noisy and 90°c temps....).
With AIBs using their own cooling designs, the "more fans" approach has shown to be better as more fans mean lower RPM of fans giving longer life so it makes sense that reference designs for consumer cards are using this kind of design but of course.
That's not to say blower style cooling doesn't have a place for consumers, such as in restricted airflow cases (small form factors) but again, noise and thermals become an issue, nevertheless, blower styles are more suitable in a workstation or server environment where comfort is less of a worry.
I'm tired of the "let see how many fans we can cram on" design. What happened to sucking air in and exhausting it out the back? Now instead of one fan that might start going tick tick tick chinka chinka chinka we have those chances x3. I get this is a stop gap since lithography shrink is slowing thus we get more heat from gpus pushed farther but this doesn't seem pleasant for the consumer. Most people are buying from online stores and these things get just pummeled on their way to you.
You're actually complaining about the lack of use of blower style cooling?
I can understand the complaint as blower-style coolers dump the heat outside of the case but at the required TDP for these GPUs, it's just unsuitable from a noise level and thermal level. Just look at previous generations of coolers from AMD and Nvidia where TDPs were between 200w and 300w (Remember R9 290X? Those were awful, very noisy and 90°c temps....).
With AIBs using their own cooling designs, the "more fans" approach has shown to be better as more fans mean lower RPM of fans giving longer life so it makes sense that reference designs for consumer cards are using this kind of design but of course.
That's not to say blower style cooling doesn't have a place for consumers, such as in restricted airflow cases (small form factors) but again, noise and thermals become an issue, nevertheless, blower styles are more suitable in a workstation or server environment where comfort is less of a worry.
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#5633600 Posted on: 01/31/2019 02:41 AM
The Red Devil variants should prove interesting if made, and available...
The Red Devil variants should prove interesting if made, and available...
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#5633649 Posted on: 01/31/2019 08:55 AM
blower style coolers are horribly inefficient and ineffective. If you don't like the cooler design, don't buy the card. It's pretty simple.
I'm tired of the "let see how many fans we can cram on" design. What happened to sucking air in and exhausting it out the back? Now instead of one fan that might start going tick tick tick chinka chinka chinka we have those chances x3. I get this is a stop gap since lithography shrink is slowing thus we get more heat from gpus pushed farther but this doesn't seem pleasant for the consumer. Most people are buying from online stores and these things get just pummeled on their way to you.
blower style coolers are horribly inefficient and ineffective. If you don't like the cooler design, don't buy the card. It's pretty simple.
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Which looks exactly like any other Radeon VII....