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MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti LIGHTNING Z review
Posted by: on: 01/21/2019 03:01 PM [
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Oh yeah, we review the MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti LIGHTNING Z, the beast has been unleashed with highly clocked factory tweaks and a completely new look. That look entails a gorgeous RGB lighting system as well as a carbon backplate. Next, to that, the card has been over-engineered in any and all impressive ways.
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999Anticlock9wiSe
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 04:06 PM
Instead of led lights why dont they put some useful information in the lights.
red lights for +65c yellow light for +55c green light for +35c
Display RPM Display clock speeds.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Flexible-Gooseneck-Cooling-Display-Notebook/dp/B06XQH86NZ/ref=sr-1-1-sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1548079380&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=fan+clock&psc=1
Instead of led lights why dont they put some useful information in the lights.
red lights for +65c yellow light for +55c green light for +35c
Display RPM Display clock speeds.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Flexible-Gooseneck-Cooling-Display-Notebook/dp/B06XQH86NZ/ref=sr-1-1-sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1548079380&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=fan+clock&psc=1
george1976
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 04:25 PM
I cannot understand why this card is tested at 1080p also.
Surely anyone paying this amount of money won't be gaming at 1080p, maybe not even 1440p.
I cannot understand why this card is tested at 1080p also.
Surely anyone paying this amount of money won't be gaming at 1080p, maybe not even 1440p.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 04:38 PM
I cannot understand why this card is tested at 1080p also.
Surely anyone paying this amount of money won't be gaming at 1080p, maybe not even 1440p.
I agree + it is CPU limited at that resolution. Problem is that if I do not post 1080p results, people will also complain as to why I did not post Full HD numbers.
I cannot understand why this card is tested at 1080p also.
Surely anyone paying this amount of money won't be gaming at 1080p, maybe not even 1440p.
I agree + it is CPU limited at that resolution. Problem is that if I do not post 1080p results, people will also complain as to why I did not post Full HD numbers.
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 04:44 PM
For those who think the FE is way too cheap
Jokes aside, it would be seriously cool to own this card paired with a 9900K to avoid bottlenecks.
For those who think the FE is way too cheap
Jokes aside, it would be seriously cool to own this card paired with a 9900K to avoid bottlenecks.
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 04:55 PM
$1.500.00? HAHAHAHA
$1.500.00? HAHAHAHA
SpajdrEX
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 05:02 PM
Yeah, forgot to mention actually that i wanted 720p resolution test!
I agree + it is CPU limited at that resolution. Problem is that if I do not post 1080p results, people will also complain as to why I did not post Full HD numbers.
Yeah, forgot to mention actually that i wanted 720p resolution test!
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 05:17 PM
Great review as always Hilbert , thank you for a great read. This card it's aimed more towards the extreme LN2 overclocking crowd wish is a small community hence this video cards will be in short supply with a big price , nonetheless already benchmarks world records already have been broken on this video card on LN2 by my team mate Gunslinger. MSI Lightnings I like it !
Great review as always Hilbert , thank you for a great read. This card it's aimed more towards the extreme LN2 overclocking crowd wish is a small community hence this video cards will be in short supply with a big price , nonetheless already benchmarks world records already have been broken on this video card on LN2 by my team mate Gunslinger. MSI Lightnings I like it
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fantaskarsef
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 05:22 PM
For what it's worth, I can only hope that this card has comparable build quality to my trusty GTX 580 Lightning XE. I loved that card, served me well for many years.
For what it's worth, I can only hope that this card has comparable build quality to my trusty GTX 580 Lightning XE. I loved that card, served me well for many years.
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 05:28 PM
I actually still think that GTX780 and R9 290X are the best looking Lightning cards.
I actually still think that GTX780 and R9 290X are the best looking Lightning cards.
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 05:34 PM
I get where you are coming from saying this, but I don't agree.
Until top end cards are able to hit 144fps or higher at 1440p reliably across the majority of current gen titles in these benchmarks, 1080p will still have a place for all those people who (like me) would like to play at high refresh rates without having to lower the graphics settings to do so.
Or until the CPU bottlenecking at 1080p becomes so bad that the model bellow the top end card starts achieving basically the same results, either one of those two options really.
We are getting close to 144fps across most titles at 1440p though so maybe next gen you can stop testing top end cards at 1080p? lets hope!
I agree + it is CPU limited at that resolution. Problem is that if I do not post 1080p results, people will also complain as to why I did not post Full HD numbers.
I get where you are coming from saying this, but I don't agree.
Until top end cards are able to hit 144fps or higher at 1440p reliably across the majority of current gen titles in these benchmarks, 1080p will still have a place for all those people who (like me) would like to play at high refresh rates without having to lower the graphics settings to do so.
Or until the CPU bottlenecking at 1080p becomes so bad that the model bellow the top end card starts achieving basically the same results, either one of those two options really.
We are getting close to 144fps across most titles at 1440p though so maybe next gen you can stop testing top end cards at 1080p? lets hope!
fantaskarsef
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 05:39 PM
I get where you are coming from saying this, but I don't agree.
Until top end cards are able to hit 144fps or higher at 1440p reliably across the majority of current gen titles in these benchmarks, 1080p will still have a place for all those people who (like me) would like to play at high refresh rates without having to lower the graphics settings to do so.
Or until the CPU bottlenecking at 1080p becomes so bad that the model bellow the top end card starts achieving basically the same results, either on of those two options really.
I just want to say, the point where you can play 144fps on 2K or 4K, it will probably only come when 8K will get a PC standard. For many years still to come, I think, 1080p will be many gamer's resolution. Not that I'd be a fan of it tbh, but I think 1080p benchmarks will accompany us. Especially if DXR will be a thing...
I get where you are coming from saying this, but I don't agree.
Until top end cards are able to hit 144fps or higher at 1440p reliably across the majority of current gen titles in these benchmarks, 1080p will still have a place for all those people who (like me) would like to play at high refresh rates without having to lower the graphics settings to do so.
Or until the CPU bottlenecking at 1080p becomes so bad that the model bellow the top end card starts achieving basically the same results, either on of those two options really.
I just want to say, the point where you can play 144fps on 2K or 4K, it will probably only come when 8K will get a PC standard. For many years still to come, I think, 1080p will be many gamer's resolution. Not that I'd be a fan of it tbh, but I think 1080p benchmarks will accompany us. Especially if DXR will be a thing...
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 05:46 PM
Great card but that price... I build my system for less than that... Also good thing we can turn off the RGB because that stuff is getting out of hand...
Also keep the 1080p tests for the near future Hilbert, they are still useful.
Great card but that price... I build my system for less than that... Also good thing we can turn off the RGB because that stuff is getting out of hand...
Also keep the 1080p tests for the near future Hilbert, they are still useful.
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 05:46 PM
144fps at 4k I agree will take a loooong time, which is why I didn't say anything about 4k, 1440p though? we are already getting quite close with top end cards (and I have been speaking specifically about the benchmarking for top end cards).
Hell just look at this review about half the benchmarks get very close to 144fps at 1440p and some get much higher, nearly all of the benchmarks at 1080p get 144fps or better on this card, so yeah 1080p is still a valid benchmark resolution for top end cards right now, but I could see the next top end card or the one after that being able to drop 1080p from its testing if things continue like this.
DXR is another thing all together though, for the games that support it, yeah I can see 1080p being in the testing resolutions for a much longer time.
I just want to say, the point where you can play 144fps on 2K or 4K, it will probably only come when 8K will get a PC standard. For many years still to come, I think, 1080p will be many gamer's resolution. Not that I'd be a fan of it tbh, but I think 1080p benchmarks will accompany us. Especially if DXR will be a thing...
144fps at 4k I agree will take a loooong time, which is why I didn't say anything about 4k, 1440p though? we are already getting quite close with top end cards (and I have been speaking specifically about the benchmarking for top end cards).
Hell just look at this review about half the benchmarks get very close to 144fps at 1440p and some get much higher, nearly all of the benchmarks at 1080p get 144fps or better on this card, so yeah 1080p is still a valid benchmark resolution for top end cards right now, but I could see the next top end card or the one after that being able to drop 1080p from its testing if things continue like this.
DXR is another thing all together though, for the games that support it, yeah I can see 1080p being in the testing resolutions for a much longer time.
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 05:49 PM
i'm so jealous! what a great looking and performing card.
the good news for the people who buy one is that MSI really knows how to put a premium product together. it really does come down to the equivalent of "nuts and bolts", which you pay for, but if i was going to buy a super-premium card i want it to feel like one.
that said, as a tech enthusiast i could just look at this in a plexi display and get my jollies. but, as a RL person balancing expenditures i can't justify a card costing the price of a whole 'puter. which would be a different story if i needed it for income or if i gamed well enough to pay for a fps advantage over the 15 months before the next super-duper card. and yeah, 15 months is about right. there is going to be no extended Pascal-style life for Turing gen 1, there's a refresh right around the corner.
i'm so jealous! what a great looking and performing card.
the good news for the people who buy one is that MSI really knows how to put a premium product together. it really does come down to the equivalent of "nuts and bolts", which you pay for, but if i was going to buy a super-premium card i want it to feel like one.
that said, as a tech enthusiast i could just look at this in a plexi display and get my jollies. but, as a RL person balancing expenditures i can't justify a card costing the price of a whole 'puter. which would be a different story if i needed it for income or if i gamed well enough to pay for a fps advantage over the 15 months before the next super-duper card. and yeah, 15 months is about right. there is going to be no extended Pascal-style life for Turing gen 1, there's a refresh right around the corner.
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 06:09 PM
Hilbert...... I freakin love you!!!
(No homo). And no offense to anyone as its not directed like that....
sad i even need to put that considering today's insecurities and all.....!!
With that all aside.... These cards nowadays are making it harder and harder for people like me to want to rip the board apart and slap on a waterblock! I mean.....LOOK at this beautiful thing....this....this....piece of art we have presented to us!!
MAN!!!!
Hilbert...... I freakin love you!!!
(No homo). And no offense to anyone as its not directed like that....
sad i even need to put that considering today's insecurities and all.....!!
With that all aside.... These cards nowadays are making it harder and harder for people like me to want to rip the board apart and slap on a waterblock! I mean.....LOOK at this beautiful thing....this....this....piece of art we have presented to us!!
MAN!!!!
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 06:12 PM
nice card
I would love to pair it with a better monitor someday
nice card
I would love to pair it with a better monitor someday
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 06:21 PM
Love the card, the upgrade of mine... but what the hell is up with the pricetag... in the UK this is at £1439... A standard 2080ti is £1049, talking about a 40% price hike... just what even is this generation, my Lightening was more expensive sure, but not £400 more! more like £50-80 more... very hard to get onboard this generation, then again this 11XX series thats rumoured might change that since i have to assume they will be normal prices just without the RTX/tensor cores
Love the card, the upgrade of mine... but what the hell is up with the pricetag... in the UK this is at £1439... A standard 2080ti is £1049, talking about a 40% price hike... just what even is this generation, my Lightening was more expensive sure, but not £400 more! more like £50-80 more... very hard to get onboard this generation, then again this 11XX series thats rumoured might change that since i have to assume they will be normal prices just without the RTX/tensor cores
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 06:36 PM
I have got to get me one of these
get rid of my MSI 1080.Its served me well...
I have got to get me one of these
get rid of my MSI 1080.Its served me well...
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 07:04 PM
I remember the days you could by the top line for $350
I remember the days you could by the top line for $350
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 07:27 PM
Nice review Hilbert! Awesome card but way too rich for me :/
How come the GPU shootout results are more than the OC results? o_O
Nice review Hilbert! Awesome card but way too rich for me :/
How come the GPU shootout results are more than the OC results? o_O
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 07:41 PM
Beautiful, beautiful card... so much better looking than the MSI Gaming Trio variant. It's just that I simply can't bring myself to appreciate the card fully due to the price tag...
ops:
I'm a guy who bought two MSI Lightings 680s back in the day at launch, and there were VERY few available, so it felt like a great achievement to get my hands on 2 at the same time (for a lot of money, but compared to this, it was cheapo). This Lightning 2080Ti however... probably will never even hit the shelves here and if by chance it does, 1600-1700 euros - holy shieeee... I couldn't afford to buy even one, lol.
But again, great engineering, great performance, great looks (love the gold + carbon black combo especially).
PS - I still have one of those 680s as a "back-up" card :p, and even now, when I take it out it looks amazing. So yeah, from these POVs, hats down MSI, you did it again. I'd choose this over Asus for example any day.
Beautiful, beautiful card... so much better looking than the MSI Gaming Trio variant. It's just that I simply can't bring myself to appreciate the card fully due to the price tag...
ops:I'm a guy who bought two MSI Lightings 680s back in the day at launch, and there were VERY few available, so it felt like a great achievement to get my hands on 2 at the same time (for a lot of money, but compared to this, it was cheapo). This Lightning 2080Ti however... probably will never even hit the shelves here and if by chance it does, 1600-1700 euros - holy shieeee... I couldn't afford to buy even one, lol.
But again, great engineering, great performance, great looks (love the gold + carbon black combo especially).
PS - I still have one of those 680s as a "back-up" card :p, and even now, when I take it out it looks amazing. So yeah, from these POVs, hats down MSI, you did it again. I'd choose this over Asus for example any day.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 07:49 PM
Nice review Hilbert! Awesome card but way too rich for me :/
How come the GPU shootout results are more than the OC results? o_O
We're listing the GPU score in the shootout, not the overall performance score.
Nice review Hilbert! Awesome card but way too rich for me :/
How come the GPU shootout results are more than the OC results? o_O
We're listing the GPU score in the shootout, not the overall performance score.
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 08:05 PM
nice review,
I read them all, thanks
nice review,
I read them all, thanks
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Posted on: 01/21/2019 08:33 PM
Lovely card...But what about the fans lighing thing once the card is horiziontaly plugged on the MB (normaly with the fans at the bottom).
The "RGB Fans LED effect" will not be directly visible (except if the card is vertically monted with a PCI extender of course).
Lovely card...But what about the fans lighing thing once the card is horiziontaly plugged on the MB (normaly with the fans at the bottom).
The "RGB Fans LED effect" will not be directly visible (except if the card is vertically monted with a PCI extender of course).
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Manual overclocking > oc scanner.
Nice looking card and nice review.