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FCAT GeForce GTX 1080 Framepacing review
Posted by: on: 05/17/2016 02:46 PM [
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We check out and review the frame-pacing and frametimes with the all new Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080, will FCAT reveal some stuff we need to know?
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MadGizmo
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 03:02 PM
It looks like the site couldn't handle the visitors. The site is down.
It looks like the site couldn't handle the visitors. The site is down.
XenthorX
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 03:02 PM
I read each line carefully hehe.. I haven't reached the benchmark yet!!!
Great writing and detailed article Hilbert! Thanks!
Can we get this 368.13 drivers?
I read each line carefully hehe.. I haven't reached the benchmark yet!!!
Great writing and detailed article Hilbert! Thanks!
Can we get this 368.13 drivers?
MadGizmo
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 03:06 PM
Works again.
Works again.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 03:59 PM
So yeah that was the human equivalent of a DDoS ... at the peak the site had roughly 900% more traffic ... even front-end load-balancing on three servers could not cope with that effect.
Works again.
So yeah that was the human equivalent of a DDoS ... at the peak the site had roughly 900% more traffic ... even front-end load-balancing on three servers could not cope with that effect.
XenthorX
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 04:08 PM
Well-deserved, great review. Thanks Hilbert !
1080, the card that kills everygame on the market. But 980-Ti and titan-X already do that. Except for VR or 4K, i don't know what could require so much power.
1070 and his expected performance of titan-X/980-Ti will be the real deal!
So yeah that was the human equivalent of a DDoS ... at the peak the site had roughly 900% more traffic ... even front-end load-balancing on three servers could not cope with that effect.
Well-deserved, great review. Thanks Hilbert !
1080, the card that kills everygame on the market. But 980-Ti and titan-X already do that. Except for VR or 4K, i don't know what could require so much power.
1070 and his expected performance of titan-X/980-Ti will be the real deal!
Netherwind
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 04:12 PM
Great review HH, much appreciated as always.
Great review HH, much appreciated as always.
MainFrame Alpha
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 04:48 PM
Great review Hilbert, such detailed reviews is what makes Guru3D what it is for all of us readers.
Great review Hilbert, such detailed reviews is what makes Guru3D what it is for all of us readers.
Rugburn
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 06:51 PM
off-topic - I want that trackball explorer!!!
off-topic - I want that trackball explorer!!!
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 07:01 PM
Oh you have no idea how hard it is to find these ...
Still love em !
off-topic - I want that trackball explorer!!!
Oh you have no idea how hard it is to find these ...
Still love em !
Solfaur
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 07:01 PM
I didn't care much about frametime and microstutter when I had 2x970s, even though I should have and it was likely just me not noticing.
Now with a single 970 I guess the OSD in AB shows a lower frametime value, but other than some GTAV I didn't play anything, and since the FPS is ****ty with just one 970 @1440p, I can't experience the "smoothness" anyway.
It will be a different story when I get my hands on a 1080 I hope.
Now that you mention it, I haven't seen one of those in years. lol
I didn't care much about frametime and microstutter when I had 2x970s, even though I should have and it was likely just me not noticing.
Now with a single 970 I guess the OSD in AB shows a lower frametime value, but other than some GTAV I didn't play anything, and since the FPS is ****ty with just one 970 @1440p, I can't experience the "smoothness" anyway.
It will be a different story when I get my hands on a 1080 I hope.
off-topic - I want that trackball explorer!!!
Now that you mention it, I haven't seen one of those in years. lol
Prince Valiant
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 08:44 PM
Whoops, thought this was the review thread
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Nice to see frametimes are solid.
Whoops, thought this was the review thread
.
Nice to see frametimes are solid.
JAMVA
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 09:27 PM
I really appreciate your hard work Hilbert , Thankyou
I really appreciate your hard work Hilbert , Thankyou
Stormyandcold
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 11:21 PM
Theoretically, if you're an fps monster, then, the GTX1080 might give you a tiny tiny edge.
I would love to see the same graphs in comparision to GTX1070 aswell.
Cheers for the review and this one Hilbert!
Theoretically, if you're an fps monster, then, the GTX1080 might give you a tiny tiny edge.
I would love to see the same graphs in comparision to GTX1070 aswell.
Cheers for the review and this one Hilbert!
GeniusPr0
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 11:48 PM
I didn't care much about frametime and microstutter when I had 2x970s, even though I should have and it was likely just me not noticing.
Now with a single 970 I guess the OSD in AB shows a lower frametime value, but other than some GTAV I didn't play anything, and since the FPS is ****ty with just one 970 @1440p, I can't experience the "smoothness" anyway.
It will be a different story when I get my hands on a 1080 I hope.
Now that you mention it, I haven't seen one of those in years. lol
just go gsync
I didn't care much about frametime and microstutter when I had 2x970s, even though I should have and it was likely just me not noticing.
Now with a single 970 I guess the OSD in AB shows a lower frametime value, but other than some GTAV I didn't play anything, and since the FPS is ****ty with just one 970 @1440p, I can't experience the "smoothness" anyway.
It will be a different story when I get my hands on a 1080 I hope.
Now that you mention it, I haven't seen one of those in years. lol
just go gsync
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 11:51 PM
Overload on guru3d? that what happens when there is no ASYNC
Great review HH as always, the 1080 seems to be a great card, but time will tell how it stand out, as i though it just maxwell on steroids, nvidia way to achieve best performance is via direct brute force rather than more helpful hardware features, tbh that is the easiest way.
Overload on guru3d? that what happens when there is no ASYNC
Great review HH as always, the 1080 seems to be a great card, but time will tell how it stand out, as i though it just maxwell on steroids, nvidia way to achieve best performance is via direct brute force rather than more helpful hardware features, tbh that is the easiest way.
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Posted on: 05/17/2016 11:55 PM
So I take it that's the most impressive FCAT score you've ever encountered, Hilbert?
Any ideas how the new, adaptive vsync works (in practice)? Is it just for VR or does it give benefits to standard gaming?
So I take it that's the most impressive FCAT score you've ever encountered, Hilbert?
Any ideas how the new, adaptive vsync works (in practice)? Is it just for VR or does it give benefits to standard gaming?
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Posted on: 05/18/2016 12:43 AM
You mean this trackball?
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D68-00007-Trackball-Explorer/dp/B00005853Z/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1463524769&sr=1-1&keywords=trackball+explorer
$50 more and one could have one of these Founder 1080s.
You mean this trackball?
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D68-00007-Trackball-Explorer/dp/B00005853Z/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1463524769&sr=1-1&keywords=trackball+explorer
$50 more and one could have one of these Founder 1080s.
Stormyandcold
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Posted on: 05/18/2016 12:47 AM
You mean this trackball?
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D68-00007-Trackball-Explorer/dp/B00005853Z/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1463524769&sr=1-1&keywords=trackball+explorer
$50 more and one could have one of these Founder 1080s.
ffs lol, only the best for the boss!
You mean this trackball?
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D68-00007-Trackball-Explorer/dp/B00005853Z/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1463524769&sr=1-1&keywords=trackball+explorer
$50 more and one could have one of these Founder 1080s.
ffs lol, only the best for the boss!
Reddoguk
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Posted on: 05/18/2016 04:29 AM
lol and if you look closely you'll see he has them in SLI.
ffs lol, only the best for the boss!
lol and if you look closely you'll see he has them in SLI.
DeskStar
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Posted on: 05/18/2016 05:10 AM
SLI 1080's??! Where is this you speak of...? "EDIT...!" You were referring to the "trackballs....." Some good stuff there....!
lol and if you look closely you'll see he has them in SLI.
SLI 1080's??! Where is this you speak of...? "EDIT...!" You were referring to the "trackballs....." Some good stuff there....!
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Posted on: 05/18/2016 11:18 AM
This just isn't true though.
Many games have microstuttering problems even on single GPUs.
Poor frame time pacing/limiting control or other problems lead to lots of stuttering and hitching.
You don't see it in as many new AAA games, but it exists in some.
Using FRAPs to benchmark anything has always been honestly a seemingly odd choice.
Afterburner these days, while not as accurate as FCAT, can be used to monitor at any polling rate you want down to 1ms. And it doesn't even take that low of a polling rate to see very unstable and variable frame times. Especially when playing at a capped framerate with vsync.
First off, microstuttering and related anomalies apply only to multi-GPU setups
This just isn't true though.
Many games have microstuttering problems even on single GPUs.
Poor frame time pacing/limiting control or other problems lead to lots of stuttering and hitching.
You don't see it in as many new AAA games, but it exists in some.
Using FRAPs to benchmark anything has always been honestly a seemingly odd choice.
Afterburner these days, while not as accurate as FCAT, can be used to monitor at any polling rate you want down to 1ms. And it doesn't even take that low of a polling rate to see very unstable and variable frame times. Especially when playing at a capped framerate with vsync.
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Posted on: 05/18/2016 05:04 PM
Hilbert, any way you can show PCI-E bus usage % from Afterburner or similar tool? Curious to see if we're getting close to the 50% mark on 3.0 x16 yet. I know I've gotten close on my 2x 780s, wondering if 1 card is > 50% yet.
Hilbert, any way you can show PCI-E bus usage % from Afterburner or similar tool? Curious to see if we're getting close to the 50% mark on 3.0 x16 yet. I know I've gotten close on my 2x 780s, wondering if 1 card is > 50% yet.
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Thank you HH.