Z370 Motherboard Tested With Kaby Lake Proc - Did Not Pass Post Stage
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dean469
I wonder, if you go into the bios and disabled the on board video, if it would boot.
Ricepudding
Well can think of a number of reasons why it might not work... biggest one being intel normally doesn't like you using old cpus with new MBs :P
But could also be lack of bios support/ chipset support or different number of pins?
Kaarme
spine
Very doubtful, but very disturbing if true. Might as well start soldering desktop CPUs directly to the mobos and be done with it.
Glidefan
Moderator
What i want to see is a Coffee Lake running on a Z170 :P
schmidtbag
Maybe just disable the IGP? It wouldn't surprise me if the only real difference between CL and KL is the GPU (and additional cores). Not like the IGP is of much value anyway.
I understand why they wouldn't want a CPU backward compatible with older motherboards (though I don't like it) but I really don't understand why they don't allow their motherboards to be backward compatible with older CPUs. What do they, or the motherboard manufacturers, have to lose?
RzrTrek
schmidtbag
Ricepudding
schmidtbag
alxtorrentazos
Problem is with the chinese market. They are not buying motherboards, sales are terrible for ASUS, Gigabyte and others............so, what Intel is doing is helping his partners to get more sales somehow (and screwing customers).
Like someone said before, is like we are buying new consoles every couple of years. At this point they can solder the CPU and 32Gb of RAM into a motherboard and sell it in a combo. It´s practically the same.
user1
surprises me that it gets to a post code at all, i wouldn't be surprised if its lacking the correct microcode, testing a cpu with a fused off igpu may reveal more if it gets past that point in the post.
ChicagoDave
People just need to get used to the fact that if you're buying a new Intel processor, you're buying a new motherboard too. It's been this way for like 10+ years and still people complain like this policy just happened.
Do I wish I could use my 5 year old CPU in a new motherboard? Sure the possibility would be nice, but TBH by that time I want the new features the chipset has and the new connectors the MB has just as much as I care about the new CPU. I don't upgrade any component ever year, GPUs maybe every 2-3, everything else until it dies. The CPU/Mobo/RAM gets a refresh every 5+ years. So yeah, I've never really been hit by the "omg I wish I could lug this CPU into the future" wish, and I've been building computers for 20 years. Hell it's just been in the past 7-10 years that CPU upgrades stopped being so noticeable (around the same time that Intel has been using the "new CPU, new mobo" rule).
Also people keep saying t hat there's "no difference" between generations but there are. Kabylake has native HDCP 2.2 decode and USB 3.1 which Skylake did not (required Alpine Ridge controller) . I can't remember off the top of my head what Broadwell > Skylake was but there were several changes. Haswell > Broadwell was again very similar but I think one or two minor tweaks (and these had inter-compatibility I believe). Can Intel make a design so that minor chipset upgrades don't break compatibility? Probably, but they're not doing it and t hey're likely not going to.
Again I wish Intel gave us the flexibility of an eternally compatible CPU/mobo would provide, but they don't. Tick-tock started in 2006...11 years ago...you haven't been able to carry CPU's forward from Intel for over a decade. Stop the never ending chorus ?
Agent-A01
One issue with keeping sockets/compatibility with old/new is you get what happened with AM3.
Very bad CPUs like bulldozer, it might have been better if they redesigned a new socket/chipset.
I certainly don't think keeping a half dozen generations of CPUs on the same socket; limits them in so many ways.
schmidtbag