Tweaker mods Z170 motherboard and gets Core i3 8350 (Coffee Lake) working

tunaphish6

2017-12-04 17:00

Not normally the kind of person to bash a company at wanton, but I'm utterly surprised anyone still supports Intel's anti-consumer practices. Some of their outstanding complaints aren't even that difficult to fix, yet Intel consistently has turned a deaf ear to the consumer in leu of shady business practices. Not saying AMD doesn't have their flaws, but thank god for healthy competition.

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signex

2017-12-04 17:01

Glad i went over to AMD, this really shocks me. Sounds like pure greed to me for customers to buy their new boards.

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D3M1G0D

2017-12-04 17:09

They should start selling Coffee Lake enabling kits. Could be a juicy profit opportunity 😀

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Serotonin

2017-12-04 17:13

Problem is, like with everything else in the world, we cry on a forum but do nothing about it in the real world.

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tunaphish6

2017-12-04 17:15

signex:

Glad i went over to AMD, this really shocks me. Sounds like pure greed to me for customers to buy their new boards.

Frankly, this doesn't--while there were valid reasons behind Intel's old Tick-Tock business model, I venture it largely to get consumers to cycle in new hardware. Now that they've broken their Tick-Tock pattern, they've had to come up with an artificial way for consumers to purchase new motherboards--a risky move that could blow up in their face if consumers cared enough.

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tunaphish6

2017-12-04 17:16

SerotoNiN:

Problem is, like with everything else in the world, we cry on a forum but do nothing about it in the real world.

Except vote with our wallets and not give in to shady business practices.

#5497912

chispy

2017-12-04 17:17

Pure greed !

#5497918

BlueRay

2017-12-04 17:25

The i3 is an underpowered model with only 4 cores. I would like to see them running an i7 8700K with and without OC on a Z170 and Z270. The previous generation motherboards could run the new CFLs mostly without issues but Z370 is supposed to have some little tweaks and pin layout changes to power 6/12 without stability issues. Ofc Intel is Intel and at this point we know about their greed but still I would like to see an 8700K with OC running on those without issues.

#5497923

Silva

2017-12-04 17:31

Every motherboard should support at least 2 generationso. There's no reason why it shouldn't as most releases when see a pattern: new tech, then improvement. I won't be buying Intel again for sure, specially knowing I can't even upgrade down the line just because of greed. At least if my 2500k blew I could get a 3000 or something.

#5497930

Size_Mick

2017-12-04 17:46

I was hoping someone would go to the trouble of proving this out. As a z170 owner myself, I really hope more modders are experimenting in this direction. Maybe we'll even get an adapter or something out of it!

#5497943

X7007

2017-12-04 18:07

Thank god I bought AMD 1950x , I'm sick of this Intel crap, they just GREED

#5497944

QBI

2017-12-04 18:07

CaseKing selling CFL enablement kits for Z170 in 3...2...1...

#5497966

nosirrahx

2017-12-04 20:04

I wonder if this ended up being an economic wash for them. If you have to buy a new motherboard for a new CPU you might buy a cheaper CPU, might not upgrade at all or decide to examine the competition. Pre-built systems must account for such a big part of the pie that the lost revenue lost from enthusiasts is easily compensated for. Synthetic incompatibility, seems so dirty.

#5497971

user1

2017-12-04 20:13

I can't say im that surprised, apart from being able to run with the older me firmware on an unsupported cpu, I assumed that would be alot harder to get working. , i'd imagine the next step would be to upgrade the me firmware , though that may be quite the challenge

#5498007

xIcarus

2017-12-04 22:29

tunaphish6:

Not normally the kind of person to bash a company at wanton, but I'm utterly surprised anyone still supports Intel's anti-consumer practices. Some of their outstanding complaints aren't even that difficult to fix, yet Intel consistently has turned a deaf ear to the consumer in leu of shady business practices. Not saying AMD doesn't have their flaws, but thank god for healthy competition.

That's the main reason I actually wanted to go for AMD in the first place. I had a choice between the 7700k and the 1800X, it's not even a contest from a future proofing standpoint; both because of the extra cores/raw power and because of the platform. Adding the occasional productivity workloads that I do means that I was lucky enough for the 1800X to be a better choice for me so I had no reason to go for Intel again. I'll avoid them when I can from now on, screw their practices.

#5498027

Mufflore

2017-12-04 23:46

A spoked person from ASUS already mentioned that Coffee lake support for Z170/270 was disabled as a requirement from Intel.

Did you mean a spooked person from Asus? ;)

#5498034

fernake

2017-12-05 00:26

It is shameful how the companies take advantage of their consumers by extracting the money without scruples.

#5498036

kegastaMmer

2017-12-05 00:54

I'd be stuck at the first step of the mod. How does one rewrite/modify a firmware

#5498037

Agent-A01

2017-12-05 01:12

kegastaMmer:

I'd be stuck at the first step of the mod. How does one rewrite/modify a firmware

Pretty simple. All you have to do is insert coffee lake microcode into the bios.

#5498040

RzrTrek

2017-12-05 01:31

I wish Intel's business practices was as good as their CPUs.