Slides Mention AMD X570 chipset with PCI-Express 4 with launch in Computex Timeframe
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Dazz
Not sure how this is news really, since we had X370 then X470 it was logical the next iteration would be X570 and the other B550, as for Zen 2, well Rome was announced with PCe 4.0 and since their enterprise and desktop CPU's are based on the same architecture then it's also logical that Zen 2 would also have PCIe 4.0, that and since Zen only has 24 lanes, (16x or 8x8x) for the GPU then 4x for NvME/SATA express and the other 4x for the connectivity to the south bridge for USB, SATA, Audio etc. Then the increased bandwidth to the Chipset is much needed without the need to increase the lane count which would more likely increase the cost more than changing from PCIe 3 to PCIe 4, which also has the added benefit with PCIe 4.0 graphics cards of double it's bandwidth more so in crossfire which goes through the bus.
Evildead666
Since PCIe4 doubles the bandwidth, I dont think youll need x4 slots for m2 storage. Not for the general user anyway.
I suppose you might get one on high end boards for bragging rights.
It'll be dropped down to PCIe3 with all of todays m2 at any rate. If they do go over to PCIe4, theyll be at x2 for a while i'll bet.
They could allow them to be split into two x2 slots as well.
The big boon, will be to the chipset. That will gobble up the double bandwidth.
Just hope they dont go overkill on the Sata, and give us some integrated 2.5/5GBps Networking.
IchimA
I was hoping Ryzen 3 to be paired with DDR5 ... but by the looks of it it will still use ddr4 ... Kind of bad cuz first year with new DDR is always so god dam expensive and you feel like a test dummy . Expensive ram , new platform with lots of bugs/problems ... And my phenom II starts to show it's age. Games from mid-season 2018 I have to lower IQ settings .
Fox2232
Evildead666
Reddoguk
I wonder if there's gonna be DDR5 support too. X570 could be first with PCIe 4 and DDR5 support should be in the next 6-12 months.
schmidtbag
So if I understand this correctly, both Zen 2 and the 500 series chipsets will use PCIe 4.0? And if you were to use a Zen 1 or Zen+ CPU, your GPU and main M.2 slot would be gen 3.0?
I'm pretty sure no existing AM4 CPUs are compatible with DDR5, so I'm pretty sure that isn't going to happen.
They'll likely create socket AM5 for DDR5 support.
Jagman
^ Yes AM5 is for DDR5 as far as I understand it to, can't remember whether that'll be Zen 3 or 4 though (curse my rubbish memory!)
Ahmad Bilal
Also on the M.2 slot, I think they will increase the Pcie Nvme standard from 3.0 x4 to 3.0 x8 (Double Bandwidth) for future proofing, if required. Since Pcie 4.0 doubles the badwidth like previous generations, it would make sense to have Pcie 4.0 x4 for the SSDs.
I have a Adata XPG 8200, and already, it seems to be under performing on Pcie 3.0 x2
Most I care about is not PCIe 4.0, but rather DDR5.
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asturur
I m happy with ddr4 controllers able to hit the top ddr4 available, like 4600Mhz. That would be a 40% bump in bandwidth and i do not think with first gen ddr5 you will get so much and improved ipc. If i can do that on my actual x470 the upgrade is worth
Dazz
schmidtbag
Killian38
I'm guessing Zen 2 will use the same chip set as Zen 1 and Zen +. No change at all. Well, maybe they will change the look. Otherwise no change for the Motherboards other than price. Maybe Zen 3-4 will get the above options but no way AMD is going to jump on this that fast. To much to risk.
Edit: I really hope i'm wrong.
Aura89
Shaxuul
Maaan, I'm still on good ole Sandy Bridge Core i5 2500k (4.5GHz), lol. All these TASTY upgrade options today... *heavy breathing* / *OM NOM NOM...*
I am REALLY hoping to see better gaming performance with upcoming Ryzen 3, though. I'd be ALL over it, if so. I'm one of the few Sandy Bridge owners STILL "holding out," and bickering/nitpicking in the background, lol. Most Sandy Bridge owners who, "held out," were ALLLLLLL over Ryzen 1. But, even THEN -- as GOOD as Ryzen 1 was/is -- I still kept telling myself to "wait." And... here I am..
DeskStar
fantaskarsef
Too late... they should aim for a quicker release to capitalize off of Intel's issues. Q3 2019 is another loooong wait...
Also, I'm not sure if people remember how expensive RAM are currently, adding another premium tag on top of it for new DDR5 won't help for Ryzen 3000's attractiveness I have to say.
Is PCIe 3.0 actually at it's limit with current world, so that PCIe 4.0 is "needed"? I'd wish for more lanes before I'd need more bandwidth with the same number of lanes... but I guess that's just me.
Venix
sean8102
I ran my 3770K from the time they were new till shortly after Coffee Lake released. Only did it really because my cousin offered to buy the motherboard, 3770K, and 32 GB of RAM (got it when 16 GB pairs were ~60 bucks). That covered a good chunk of getting the new mobo, RAM and 8700K so I figured what the hell. He put a GTX 1060 with the 3770K and its still handling the latest games like a champ.
Venix