Samsung introduced 0.7-micrometer (μm)-pixel image sensor at 43.7-megapixel
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Silva
I don't see why sensors need to get bigger and bigger MP count, specially on phones.
I'd rather have larger pixels and awesome low light performance (that will always be bad compared to a real camera).
The phones using this sensor better record 8k (7680x4320) at 33.2MP, I think with 43.7MP it can surely do it.
Fox2232
Silva
schmidtbag
Well, at least this isn't anywhere near as stupid as the phone cameras exceeding 100MP. Still stupid though.
Give me a solid 12MP camera capable of progressive scan and then you've piqued my interest.
slyphnier
not sure why people skeptical about new-sensor, while we are seeing some real-improvement in smartphone-camera,
do you guys have some prove/base that new sensor more or less useless ?
smartphone camera wont reach real-camera, mostly simply because the lens, those lens for specific-purpose... there rest i am thinking smartphone catching up really good in each generation
but other than photography-pro or people that into photography (for people that just want good picture)
taking camera-kit everywhere is just unpractical, if ur phone can capture great quality
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well for me personally, if there no real improvement (aka gimmick), then i agree to be skeptical, but so far i see its gets better
for low-light that the reason with multi-camera (flood illuminator, telephoto) setup in latest phone, no ?
schmidtbag
slyphnier
386SX
@slyphnier
Look here:
https://praxistipps.chip.de/megapixel-wie-viel-braucht-man_16804
Probably you have to translate it by Google first.
TL;DR: The amount of MP needed is roughly based on how big the photo will be printed out / viewed. Better images are done by better sensors with more or better effects like noise reduction, OIS or others.
So based on this a 100MP cam would give you nice 20 x 10 meter posters, but the same image quality on your 1080p screen like a photo taken with 8MP. Only when you zoom in there is a difference, or you may crop the image without visible loss of quality.
schmidtbag
https://www.cnet.com/news/camera-megapixels-why-more-isnt-always-better-smartphones-unlocked/
There's a reason why pros opt for the lowest pixel density possible while having a sufficient resolution to get the job done.
Most of those improvements were done via software or refined sensors, not because of more MP.
I'm aware of that... I'm not disagreeing. You're missing the point here - it's not that phone cameras aren't good or can't get better, the point is more MP doesn't make a camera better. There are other real problems phone cameras have that NEED to be fixed and have nothing to do with MP count.
Again... more MP doesn't equal better image quality. Remember, phones have limited processing power and limited storage. At 43MP, you're either going to run out of space very quickly or you're going to have quality so lossy that you'd get better detail at half the resolution.
To put it in another perspective: I think most people would agree that a Blu Ray at 1080p looks better than a highly compressed Youtube video at 4K.
Why would I need to show an example of a worst-case scenario when phone cameras at half the resolution and no zoom at all are already suffering badly from low-light conditions? Like I said, higher pixel density makes low-light shots even worse.
Because of science? This is an old article but it's still relevant:
Neo Cyrus
KayserKay
Shot with a cheap € 130 Smartphone! Xiaomi Mi A2 with Sony IMX 20MP Pixel binning in Portrait Mode. Stock Camera! No Gcam!!!
https://i.imgur.com/JMIpHT6.jpg
Silva
wavetrex
Please take this picture with a phone:
(It's flying at the usual 10000-12000 meters or 30000 feet+)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48775324566_0ef4f852e2_o_d.jpg
Good luck with that !