I am still running i7 3770K, so this will be a worthy upgrade for me I think.

So will the price be the same as before on the new Ryzen? I have the money now to upgrade and being so close for zen 2 I wonder if I schould just wait it out.Almost picked-up a R 1700 Today actually.

Will be keeping my 1700 and wait for Zen 2...still have my FX 8350 sitting here on my desk...it lasted for years 😉

nz3777:

So will the price be the same as before on the new Ryzen? I have the money now to upgrade and being so close for zen 2 I wonder if I schould just wait it out.Almost picked-up a R 1700 Today actually.

Will likely be the same, if not a slight change either way

Looks like the new Ryzens might get closer to Broadwell-E in terms of gaming performance, but still not catch it. No way they get close to 8700K or any other 8000 series chip for gaming or mostly anything else really besides rendering. Not a chance. 8700K can be bought for $350 now with board at under $200. They'd have to pay enthusiast gamers to use them over the Intel 8000 series chips. Just sayin. What's true is true. AMD needs another HUGE JUMP in performance to catch Intel because now AMD is still going to use mesh based CPU's which probably still won't clock very well to try and catch a ring bus based 8700K at around 5ghz? Nope.

Zen2 might catch up with Intel. Depends how well Cannonlake will perform. Intel probably makes a move this year, AMD follows in 2019.

usoldier:

Ill be upgrading my 1700X to this one or the new 2800X i realy need a bit more core speed , iam currently running my cpu @ 3975mhz if these manage to get all cores at 4400 it will truly be a beast for gaming and probably on par with the 8700k for gaming .

If you got all cores at that yeah it might be on par in most cases, though you can overclock the 8700k past that... also having to have a cpu be overclocked 24/7 just to catch up to another processor isn’t really what I call a beast. Also I still have doubts it will reach that high, remember the 1800x could barely overclock past it’s clock speeds, this could very well be the same deal. Though time will tell when these come out, though I’m not expecting much till zen2 when they said they’re hoping to reach around 5ghz

sverek:

Zen2 might catch up with Intel. Depends how well Cannonlake will perform. Intel probably makes a move this year, AMD follows in 2019.

I think we will get to a stage soon where both are basically neck and neck, current technology has lead to such slow ipc improvements every year that it will just end up them being too close to be any real difference. Might end up people just buying certain cpus due to their software advantages rather than anything else.

icedman:

I have the G.skill F4-3200C16-8GVRB. How would i even find out what die it uses?

gskill forums, download a program like thaiphoon burner/SIV64, or remove the heatspreader 😀

Moonbogg:

AMD needs another HUGE JUMP in performance to catch Intel

Sorry to burst your bubble, i'm gaming with a GTX 1080 ti and a Ryzen 1700x with @1440p and 144hz monitor with zero FPS issues. The only people who claim that Ryzen is not good for gaming are people who don't understand what "gaming" is. Is it true under very specific circumstances that people do not game at, that Intel can, but not all the time, be higher FPS? Sure, but if you care about 140fps vs 160fps, then you're not gaming, you're just caring about numbers that at that point are meaningless. There is literally zero issues i have had with gaming at 70+fps, and quite often at 120fps+, at max settings, anyone complaining about that is spewing nonsense. And the only way i'd feel the "affect" of this "issue" is if i were to lower my settings and lower my resolution to settings i would never use, all so i can complain that my very low resolution and very low settings on a GTX 1080 ti and ryzen are not getting 200fps, but rather 170fps. Boo hoo?

Moonbogg:

They'd have to pay enthusiast gamers to use them over the Intel 8000 series chips. Just sayin. What's true is true.

Oh, i get it, me with my 1300+ games on steam, let alone gog, origin, uplay, etc., i'm not an enthusiast gamer, got it, makes sense. Nor are any of the people i have built Ryzen systems for that were worried about ryzen not performing because of posts like yours, who now have absolutely no clue why anyone would claim ryzen is bad at gaming, and couldn't be happier for their very snappy, more cores, less cost, systems. They must not be "enthusiast gamers" either. LOL totes makes sense brah! https://beatingcowdens.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/lol1.jpg

^ So true.

Looks nice and I would like to make an upgrade from my i5 4670k, but man the prices on the memory. Not to mention that I really need to change the gpu as well, and the prices on those are absolutelly absurd. But I guess that by the next year I would really need to switch to more cores whatever the price.

Aura89:

Sorry to burst your bubble, i'm gaming with a GTX 1080 ti and a Ryzen 1700x with @1440p and 144hz monitor with zero FPS issues. The only people who claim that Ryzen is not good for gaming are people who don't understand what "gaming" is. Is it true under very specific circumstances that people do not game at, that Intel can, but not all the time, be higher FPS? Sure, but if you care about 140fps vs 160fps, then you're not gaming, you're just caring about numbers that at that point are meaningless. There is literally zero issues i have had with gaming at 70+fps, and quite often at 120fps+, at max settings, anyone complaining about that is spewing nonsense. And the only way i'd feel the "affect" of this "issue" is if i were to lower my settings and lower my resolution to settings i would never use, all so i can complain that my very low resolution and very low settings on a GTX 1080 ti and ryzen are not getting 200fps, but rather 170fps. Boo hoo? Oh, i get it, me with my 1300+ games on steam, let alone gog, origin, uplay, etc., i'm not an enthusiast gamer, got it, makes sense. Nor are any of the people i have built Ryzen systems for that were worried about ryzen not performing because of posts like yours, who now have absolutely no clue why anyone would claim ryzen is bad at gaming, and couldn't be happier for their very snappy, more cores, less cost, systems. They must not be "enthusiast gamers" either. LOL totes makes sense brah! https://beatingcowdens.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/lol1.jpg

Somethings are said whilst using logic! You are scholar, a wise man, i like that and agree with the above 😀

@Aura89 Well said. In fact, gaming on even a R5 1500x feels better then when I had my 3930k@ 4.1. I even had a i7 3820(2600k) @ 4.5ghz and this cpu feels better even only @ 3.75ghz Same R9 Fury I had with the 3930k, and monitor. But overall, the entire rig is smoother.

Agonist:

@Aura89 Well said. In fact, gaming on even a R5 1500x feels better then when I had my 3930k@ 4.1. I even had a i7 3820(2600k) @ 4.5ghz and this cpu feels better even only @ 3.75ghz Same R9 Fury I had with the 3930k, and monitor. But overall, the entire rig is smoother.

That's pretty much the statement i continue to hear from ryzen users "My system feels so smooth! I never realized how smooth my system could feel overall, gaming or otherwise! And i'm having no FPS issues in games, so i could test with the latest Intel processor with less cores (if i spent the same amount on both processors) and see if i'm getting better fps in games, but why when i have an very slick system and no FPS issues? it just doesn't make sense" Whereas from none ryzen users who only look at benchmarks based off of settings no one uses "OMG, ryzen is so bad for gaming!"

I think Intel marketing attracts people. On twitch many streamers have Intel banner, and they do say good things about Intel. So obviously people who got "brainwashed" by Intel ads will try to blindly protect it. However difference does exists if we remove GPU bottleneck. Would that difference be an issue for a gamers, its up for them to decide.

sverek:

On twitch many streamers have Intel banner, and they do say good things about Intel. So obviously people who got "brainwashed" by Intel ads will try to blindly protect it.

I do find that part the most interesting. I just helped a friend set up their twitch and they had planned to get an intel 4-core system that would have cost more then a 6-core AMD system. One of the things i had heard (but i was not extremely familiar on) is that twitch streamers do benefit a decent amount from additional cores. They ended up having less money then they thought and so ended up building a Ryzen 1600 system, per my suggestion, and couldn't be happier, say their streaming basically does nothing to their gaming performance. They also had intended at first to build a 2nd PC capture system with an intel pentium dual core system, which i didn't really understand, from a money stand point lol but they ended up not doing that either, never said why.

New benchmarks are online, also 2700x has max boost up to 4.35GHz, so 2800x should have 4.45 or even 4.5GHz https://www.techpowerup.com/242119/first-leaked-benchmarks-of-amds-ryzen-7-2000-processor

oh wow. i try to make it a point to only comment when i have something to say...not this time. thats just rather exciting if you ask me.

__hollywood|meo:

oh wow. i try to make it a point to only comment when i have something to say...not this time. thats just rather exciting if you ask me.

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