I forgot I had this...from back in Nov 2018 when I hit bench stable 3830 https://i.imgur.com/dyvMyjr.png Hope this helps with showing the massive improvements they made from 1st generation to 2nd generation of Ryzen.

mtrai:

I forgot I had this...from back in Nov 2018 when I hit bench stable 3830 https://i.imgur.com/dyvMyjr.png Hope this helps with showing the massive improvements they made from 1st generation to 2nd generation of Ryzen.

So... its not necessary "imagination" to much... the TRUE REAL WORLD says it... ZEN2 at 7nm will be a HUGE JUMP from Zen+ (IPS) add DDR4 4000-4400MHZ will be FANTASTIC!

Borys:

So... its not necessary "imagination" to much... the TRUE REAL WORLD says it... ZEN2 at 7nm will be a HUGE JUMP from Zen+ (IPS) add DDR4 4000-4400MHZ will be FANTASTIC!

While some may consider me an extreme tweaker...but truth is the truth as you stated. People are really missing all the security patches needed now that adversely affect Intel CPUs for the last decade. They scuttle security and knew about it (IMO) for the sake of speed and market dominance. Why is it that bulldozer and piledriver cpus are not affected, hence now when you rerun bench comparing them they now come out the same..once security is addressed. With the above said...that translates to a number of things..but in today world...it means in THE TRUE REAL WORLD...AMD only needs to pull out about 3% to 5% performance increase mainly with just the IPC. Which seems certain. Now my old FX 8120 is look pretty appealing over my Intel 6600K that I have laying around. Yes I hit on my FX 8120 5k Mhz back in the day on air. Proof https://valid.x86.fr/show_oc.php?id=2827933 As I am understanding but waiting to see what unfolds...with the ability to set separate clocks will be a huge thing for Ryzen. IE Ram speed is independent of the Infinity Fabric speeds. While the the vast majority will not take advantage of all these options...I know I will certainly make use of these "advanced" changes.

mtrai:

I forgot I had this...from back in Nov 2018 when I hit bench stable 3830 https://i.imgur.com/dyvMyjr.png Hope this helps with showing the massive improvements they made from 1st generation to 2nd generation of Ryzen.

That's actually very decent. The bandwidth scores in particular seem to be better than comparable Intel dual channel setups, but the latency is still quite a bit higher. This is how my 6900K at 4.2ghz with quad channel DDR4 3400 RAM compares. As you can see, Intel's ODMC is still quite a bit better overall as I'm running slower memory. BTW, what kind of RAM are you using? https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/578/UBazIv.png I can't wait to see how Zen 2 compares with the memory bandwidth and latency. The much bigger L3 cache should help to offset a some of the latency costs associated with a non native memory controller, but by how much is anyone's guess. I just want someone to leak something other than Cinebench scores, so we can better determine what kind of gaming CPU Zen 2 will be.

Carfax:

I just want someone to leak something other than Cinebench scores, so we can better determine what kind of gaming CPU Zen 2 will be.

Ask and ye shall receive I guess. Someone uploaded Geekbench scores for a low end Ryzen 3000 model, with 6 cores 12 threads and 16MB of L3 cache. It scored well, and averaged 14.2% faster than a 2700x in single thread: Reddit A higher end model with the full chiplet and 32MB of L3 cache would score even better I'd wager. As to how it compares to an Intel CPU, this Geekbench comparison shows it's right on par with Coffee Lake in terms of single thread performance: Coffee Lake vs Zen 2 This bodes well for AMD in non gaming scenarios, but the jury is still out for gaming performance. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/bswru6/apisak_found_geekbench_result_of_6c12t_ryzen_has/?utm_term=31972287418&utm_medium=comment_embed&utm_source=embed&utm_name=c05286ca-7f18-11e9-aef7-0e57fd6a475c&utm_content=footer

Borys:

So... its not necessary "imagination" to much... the TRUE REAL WORLD says it... ZEN2 at 7nm will be a HUGE JUMP from Zen+ (IPS) add DDR4 4000-4400MHZ will be FANTASTIC!

the funny part is that the memory will still much cost more then the CPU..

I wonder how older generation boards will handle memory speeds compared to an X570

Kool64:

I wonder how older generation boards will handle memory speeds compared to an X570

C6H show settings up to 4200 MHz on Zen1..

This was expected and simply great and awesome news for this new chips 🙂 , ddr4-4000Mhz anyone 😀 , bring it !

mtrai:

I already hit 4.3 stable on all cores with a simple all in one box liquid cooling kit on my 2700X.

It just got announced. 4.6 on their highest end part. Have fun hitting even that. Told you, 5 is just pure imagination. We all know how well ryzen overclocks over the numbers they announce.