Rumor: Ryzen 7000 processors all get integrated graphics
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cucaulay malkin
good.they're stupid for not putting it on their chips earilier.
KissSh0t
The ultimate cleverer master-plan of making miners buy cpu's also...
CPC_RedDawn
To me this would only be a good idea if they were actually capable iGPU parts. Something more in line with an RX570/580/GTX1060, and DDR5 will bring a huge bandwidth boost for any iGPU that can access it.
I think removing the iGPU in the first place on Ryzen was a good idea, it allowed them more space on the substrate for more chiplets and didn't bring the headache of having to include an iGPU chiplet that more than likely barely anyone would use on such high end CPU's.
If you are buying a 5950X are you also going to be using the iGPU? More than likely not your going to have a dedicated GPU in your system.
Sure they are ideal to have in troubleshooting dedicated GPU issues. And AMD could of done a better job of naming/marketing their lower end APU chips.
iicycube
Another remaster CPU still on 5/7nm, more to milking than going insane performance path.
PrMinisterGR
0blivious
If it's anything like my Renoir laptop, these will be good for light gaming and more than enough for the average PC user.
For an enthusiast, it's "nice to have" as a backup but not needed for most.
asturur
djmcave
You forget that some games can make use of the additional iGPU as a multi GPU setup.
Other thing, that crossed my mind a few times, is the fact that we are adding vector units to all CPUs,
when you have a integrated GPU that has all that and then some.
I would bet a more closed integrated IGPU could boost/offset most of the multimedia and AI workload.
asturur
cucaulay malkin
CronoGraal
Stairmand
Systems that use the iGPU as a boost have almost always been shown as slower than not bothering.
Personally I think it's a waste of die space, never really understood why intel put one in the higher end i7 and i9 desktops. If you don't want a powerful GPU then there are plenty of passive basic cards for under £50.
djmcave
rl66
cucaulay malkin
rl66
Noisiv
Excellent news!
Back when I had R9 290 and when not playing demanding 3d games, I used to switch to Intel HD Graphics 4600, shaving up to 40 watts depending on the task. Like I was human Nvidia Optimus duh,..
Also iGPU saved my butt more than a few times.
This firmly puts AMD on my purchase list. I am not going anywhere without iGPU.
totally
schmidtbag
CPC_RedDawn
Undying
Price is only going to rise if there was a igpu in every cpu. Just look at 4750g and 5700g is way overpriced for what it is. You can actually get stronger desktop cpu without igpu aka 5800x.