Rumor: GeForce RTX 3060 to have 4864 shader cores?

Pinstripe

2020-09-09 10:40

Dragam1337:

Read reply #11 again... "Yes, the various segments has taken a price hike... but you still compare them model to model..." Yes, nvidia is charging more money for everything. Deal with it.

Stop getting so upset. Nvidia still covers all price segments like they've always done. What is it that's so hard to comprehend about that?

#5827518

Kaarme

2020-09-09 10:40

If it's 6GB of VRAM, it's totally out of the question for me. My dusty old current card from years ago already has 8GB. That being said, I won't believe it's going to have only 6GB of memory before the official specs from Nvidia.

#5827520

Dragam1337

2020-09-09 10:41

Kaarme:

If it's 6GB of VRAM, it's totally out of the question for me. My dusty old current card from years ago already has 8GB. That being said, I won't believe it's going to have only 6GB of memory before the official specs from Nvidia.

Honestly it sounds very likely... nvidia always does this.

#5827522

Dragam1337

2020-09-09 10:42

Pinstripe:

Stop getting so upset. Nvidia still covers all price segments like they've always done. What is it that's so hard to comprehend about that?

Yep, so you will just have to get a lower end model, if your budget is limited to 300 USD. So stop crying about it.

#5827523

itpro

2020-09-09 10:43

Pinstripe:

And? XSX will be supplied with 4K res textures, XSS will be lower. There's a autodelivery system. Lower texture means lower VRAM and bandwidth requirements. Or do you think that lion's market share of FullHD gamers will suddenly switch to 4K gaming? Microsoft also has to think of it's PC ecosystem, and not everyone is gonna go out and buy high-end 12GB cards. Those 6GB 300 bucks cards will outsell anything else Nvidia puts out.

You know that you can buy TV for less than 299€ nowadays right? A cheap 4k TV costs as much as Xbox series S on average. It is not excuse. Games aren't free. Only 1% of console gamers use hdr in a resolution smaller than 4k. Everything is a fiasco for me.

#5827525

Pinstripe

2020-09-09 10:44

Dragam1337:

Yep, so you will just have to get a lower end model, if your budget is limited to 300 USD. So stop crying about it.

I'm not the one crying. Read my first post. That's exactly what I purported. Are you done now being all sulky and stupid?

#5827526

Pinstripe

2020-09-09 10:45

itpro:

You know that you can buy TV for less than 299€ nowadays right? A cheap 4k TV costs as much as Xbox series S on average. It is not excuse. Games aren't free. Only 1% of console gamers use hdr in a resolution smaller than 4k. Everything is a fiasco for me.

Have you ever checked those Steam Hardware surveys? 4K gaming is still miniscule there. And the economy isn't exactly brilliant either. Anything else you feel like you need to fight over with?

#5827529

itpro

2020-09-09 10:54

Pinstripe:

Have you ever checked those Steam Hardware surveys? 4K gaming is still miniscule there. And the economy isn't exactly brilliant either. Anything else you feel like you need to fight over with?

What is steam? Who knows steam? Who knows Valve? Who is Gabe Newell? Move on with nobodies please. I do not care for shady surveys. They could even shove in my throat that people plays at 720p. And we are talking about consoles here, not pc. Even elderly people achieved to buy cheap 4k TVs under 500$. 4k is mainstream for most users. New channels, faster internet, better signal reception. Only monitors are mostly stuck in 1080p. OK now?

#5827532

Dragam1337

2020-09-09 10:59

Pinstripe:

I'm not the one crying. Read my first post. That's exactly what I purported. Are you done now being all sulky and stupid?

You said that models should be compared based on price - which they shouldn't. They should be compared directly to the model they replace. Price points change, and that's just tough luck if you are poor.

#5827533

Undying

2020-09-09 11:01

Pinstripe:

And then there is the Xbox Series S which will likely only dedicate 4GB of VRAM. Only "dumbasses", aka the majority, would buy those, right? 6GB will be fine with medium settings and Sampler Feedback.

399$ for medium setttings? Where has this world come to.

#5827538

Pinstripe

2020-09-09 11:05

Undying:

399$ for medium setttings? Where has this world come to.

No, you'll get 8 GB and "High" settings for that. That is what the world has come to. I.e. same as every generation.

#5827539

Pinstripe

2020-09-09 11:11

itpro:

What is steam? Who knows steam? Who knows Valve? Who is Gabe Newell? Move on with nobodies please. I do not care for shady surveys. They could even shove in my throat that people plays at 720p. And we are talking about consoles here, not pc. Even elderly people achieved to buy cheap 4k TVs under 500$. 4k is mainstream for most users. New channels, faster internet, better signal reception. Only monitors are mostly stuck in 1080p. OK now?

No, we're talking about a PC graphics card here, not about TV's or consoles. Perhaps you should go to NeoGAF for that.

#5827544

itpro

2020-09-09 11:19

Pinstripe:

No, we're talking about a PC graphics card here, not about TV's or consoles. Perhaps you should go to NeoGAF for that.

You said vram is enough. Xbox series s is failing because it has no vram/ram. Yet you brought it as an excuse for nvidia wanting to give new 6gb gpu in 2020. Full HD pc master race huh, u mad bro? 😎

#5827545

itpro

2020-09-09 11:22

Undying:

399$ for medium setttings? Where has this world come to.

And they will be very happy about it. Market is a fail, consumerism is failing. We have either those who are willing to give 1500 or 300. Most average users are victims in between those price tags and buyers.

#5827547

Pinstripe

2020-09-09 11:26

itpro:

You said vram is enough. Xbox series s is failing because it has no vram/ram. Yet you brought it as an excuse for nvidia wanting to give new 6gb gpu in 2020. Full HD pc master race huh, u mad bro? 😎

What? Series S is failing? What are you babbling on about now? And what excuse? That GA106 chip that was leaked months ago by @kopite7kimi is purported to have a 192bit bis interface. Now do the math. That will translate into 6 (and maybe later 12GB) models. You think Nvidia will just sell products that will leave customers screwed? And if you think 8GB isn't enough either... well tough luck for those RTX 3070 customers.

#5827550

Aura89

2020-09-09 11:33

Undying:

399$ for medium setttings? Where has this world come to.

To be fair, it should relatively be expected that if you're not paying highest price for a GPU, you shouldn't be getting highest quality in games with at least current and most future graphically intensive games. Obviously, this isn't fully true, as 1080p on a supposed $399 3060 with 6GB of memory will likely play everything on the highest settings, with possible exclusions being with ray tracing on the highest settings. But sure if you wanna play at 4K on a $399 card and want to get good performance, then yes, you should be expecting medium to high settings, since the card realistically isn't targeted at 4K gamers.

#5827590

ACEB

2020-09-09 13:40

I misread something so ignore the quote notification :-P So Nvidia will play the old super game 3060 6 GB 3060 super 8GB now I just hope the following is true 3070 8GB 3070 super 10GB At the point they release the super versions the 3070 10GB wouldn't cannibalize the 3080 as you'd be buying the 3080 super/ti instead, same for the 3070 vs the 3060 8GB

#5827592

nosirrahx

2020-09-09 13:44

There is a lot of research already done on VRAM consumption and 1080P gaming. Unlike some people, I decided to look it up before commenting. In 1080P gaming you need to max everything out just to get to 5GB of usage and only in certain demanding games. In most cases even 1440P gaming will be 100% fine on 6GB.

#5827597

Undying

2020-09-09 13:51

nosirrahx:

There is a lot of research already done on VRAM consumption and 1080P gaming. Unlike some people, I decided to look it up before commenting. In 1080P gaming you need to max everything out just to get to 5GB of usage and only in certain demanding games. In most cases even 1440P gaming will be 100% fine on 6GB.

You decided to look, good for you. Unless you played most of those games and experienced yourself all those claims dont talk about it.

#5827599

nosirrahx

2020-09-09 13:58

Undying:

You decided to look, good for you. Unless you played most of those games and experienced yourself all those claims dont talk about it.

Why do you think so many people researched this? People obsessed with VRAM size don't understand how that part of the equation works so they showed you the number. This isn't a little research, like every review site ever seems to have looked into this. Google -> 'VRAM usage' and then switch to images. This seems to be a hot button issue for you so this could be a lot of fun. Go to each and every one of those pages and yell at them about how they are wrong.