Here's some food for thought: Everyone here is assuming it was HBM/2 that brought on Vega delays. Perhaps Vega simply either wasn't ready itself (ignoring the HBM issue) or was having relatively poor yields. AMD spent a lot of money in the last quarter building up inventory, and everyone just assumes its for Ryzen rather than perhaps for Vega as well. Could have something to do with its release for the professional crowd first (against AMD tradition). Keep in mind the Nvidia Quadro GP100 with 16GB HBM2 has been already building inventory before its February 2017 announcement and was hard launched in March 2017. Haven't heard about any shortages in regards to it due to HBM2.

Frontier Edition will ship with 16GB of HBM2 towards the latter half of June. You will see the enthusiast gaming platform, the machine learning platform and the processional graphics platform very soon thereafter. And so, we will be launching Vega across all the market segments over the next couple of months."

FYI Here is the exact quote: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Qz6Mlo7wHn Vega market segments include Raven Ridge - which we know isn't launching until mid Q3ish. So that statement could be in reference to their APUs. I'm guessing first month of July for RX Vega launch.

If this holds true AMD once again let their own fans wait. And there I thought that AMD would step it up and attack the 1080Ti with a near Vega launch at great prices... doesn't sound like it. Waiting until July or eventually August is just another step closer to Volta's release.

week? 😀

I think it's time for Lisa Su to resign.

Nothing has been debunked as of yet as it's still quite a vague answer.

I started saying it about 8 months ago. AMD needed to make a larger Polaris and so many AMD drones attacked me for suggesting it. Hey would a larger Polaris 8 months ago had been such a bad idea? Face it AMD screwed the pooch again with this. I think it's time for Lisa Su to resign.

I'm a firm believer that AMD need balls (not specifically a male CEO) but someone with authority and the ability to convince us to trust and buy their products.

I guess I'm the only one looking forward to Vega that doesn't "have" to have an unreleased product "right now" or else. If you want a 1080ti or xp just buy one.

How did she screw up? They had 29% more GPU sales year over year with a cheap GPU they can produce en-masse and which also is the basis of one of the more important custom parts they sell (the PS4Pro). She's probably the most competent and respected CEO AMD has had since the days of Jerry Sanders.

When Lisa took over as CEO AMD was trading at $3.22 after almost 5 years they are up to $11.04 (this news of Vega has turned down the uptick they were having). In the same span of time Nvidia started at $13.30 and are now trading at $138.90. Yep that's a "competent" CEO right there. Nvidia' growth has out paced AMD almost 4:1. She has been at the helm during the most stagnant period in AMD's history. Sure keep worshiping her in you makeship temple you likely have in your closet. I just don't see how anyone would defend the "job" she has done. Edit: You know from my history that I have been very critical of AMD management for a long time now.

That was Dirk Meyer, I would argue. And also the single reason that NVIDIA is getting that price value (which is by far not the most important metric in a company), is the current deep learning craze. What she's doing is trying to tap that for AMD. I don't know how you can believe that they could have created complex chips (even Polaris 10 surely took at least 3 years to design) that fast. She's seriously doing just fine. She's presiding over AMD's recovery, if nothing else.