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#5372261
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This CPU or the Zen counterpart, one of these is going to be my future CPU as long as the prices are right... I just hope all retail 7600K overclock as good as this one... Any word about the possible price of this thing??? It´s gonna be the same price of the current 6600K or is Intel gonna raise the price to a crazy amount like the future 7700k???
#5372262
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Can't take these seriously when Zen is around the corner. I think you'd be mad to buy now.
#5372271
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Tic Toc Toc Toc Toc... have to change the batery of the clock 🙂
#5372282
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Thank you for review Boss!
#5372285
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gen to gen diffrences are getting smaller and smaller. if it only slightly better to do slight higher base clock then meh, intel still isnt trying. Then again it will be atlest 5 years before i do upgrade on cpu.mobo again unless dev start to make proper mulithreading programs
#5372289
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If consumers were in dire need for CPU performance, I think Intel would step up and improve it. Truth is, there no need. Games are GPU bond, Workstations performance can be improved by installing CPU with more cores and Servers utilize multiple CPUs at ones. Most laptop consumers still limited with HDD poor performance, causing CPU to wait for I/O. I dare to think Intel is doing the right thing here. Instead of rushing for huge performance gains, improve what you got: Expand instructions, improve stability, boost per core performance, etc... Once there need for more performance, Intel probably can take their stable CPU platform and expand from there.
#5372296
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No one should be getting another quad-core if they already own one. I mean who in the right mind would upgrade their Sandy i5/i7 to Kaby i5/i7? That's just a waste. Only upgrade path would something like X99 and 5820k or 6850k. Cannonlake will again change nothing in that regard, maybe Coffee Lake. Cant wait to see how Zen finaly changes the future.
Yeah I hope that too. Finally we might have something which forces Intel to actually do something new. That said, it would be naïve to think that Intel doesn't have something in their sleeve after all these years. The biggest question mark with Zen is actually the chipset capabilities and chipset software. With the known AMD software quality, how long we are watching bluescreens from drivers no matter how fast the CPU is.
#5372297
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That CPU-Z screenshot shows the CPU at 4.2ghz and ~1.7 vcore? http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=27463 Sorry I'm being nit picky today. The article also says..."The overclock entails nothing more then increasing the base clock and CPU voltage, it is as simple as that." The overclock was by increasing the CPU multi vs the base clock.
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gen to gen diffrences are getting smaller and smaller. if it only slightly better to do slight higher base clock then meh, intel still isnt trying. Then again it will be atlest 5 years before i do upgrade on cpu.mobo again unless dev start to make proper mulithreading programs
Well ever since Haswell intel went to 7way front-end and then tweaked from there.. This 7way made the biggest difference compared to 5way - this was here since conroe days up to and including IvyBridge. So Broadwell, Skylake, Kabbylake is basically still Haswell with minimal tweaks. And you see in real world how minimal these tweaks are.
#5372307
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I`m looking at the Handbrake results and there are: 20 i7s 4 i5s excluding the main star 0 i3s How do ppl make any sens out of this ? And why is CPU-Z screenshot showing VRM voltage or a killing core power?
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I`m looking at the Handbrake results and there are: 20 i7s 4 i5s excluding the main star 0 i3s How do ppl make any sens out of this ? And why is CPU-Z screenshot showing VRM voltage or a killing core power?
Who runs Handbrake on an i3? :banana:
#5372320
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Who runs Handbrake on an i3? :banana:
Hilbert Hagedoorn did run it on a amd a6 3500 even but most importantly we do not know if any i3 is faster or not. I really do believe that a video transcoding test is important even to check on a cheap laptop cpu.
#5372337
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How's that, you really think AMD will have another new cpu architecture so fast ? Even if they do good with Zen there R/D is slow, I bet it be another 3-4yrs before we see next one, if it does good. Now that doesn't say there won't be newer ones out but just there be very similar to Zen for a while IMO.
Its possible that both GloFo and TSMC will use 7nm in 2019 which would be terrific opportunity for AMD to bring new CPUs with it. Don't look on Zen+ as completely new architecture, but rather improved Zen. This time it would not take 5 years just simply because they don't need to work from scratch as they have Zen to build on and just improve it.
#5372339
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Yeah I hope that too. Finally we might have something which forces Intel to actually do something new. That said, it would be naïve to think that Intel doesn't have something in their sleeve after all these years. The biggest question mark with Zen is actually the chipset capabilities and chipset software. With the known AMD software quality, how long we are watching bluescreens from drivers no matter how fast the CPU is.
Bringing AMD software quality again, realy ? Try compare progress and software/driver issues between Nvidia and AMD in 2016. AMD did make huge improvement there and at moment is clearly winner here. Intel probably have something in its sleeve, but question is how quickly he is able to execute it. Anything new will take minimum 6-12 months if its already ready for manufacturing process.
#5372347
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Zen will probably be garbage though.
I have no choice but to take the bait :'-( What tells you it will be garbage? Apart from the "Bulldozer was a failure" kind of crap that we know from a long time now? The greatest funny part is that the FX-8370 is competing with the 5960x in modern games, which I don't know what to say about. That was a huge case of overdesign if I ever saw one. The next trimester will be very interesting. I've read the AMAs Intel CPU engineers and they exhume an immense amount of arrogance. I hope Zen has indeed close to Skylake IPC and sell at normal prices, as their event implied. That will move some Intel asses around. Getting anything less than a 4c/8t CPU for modern gaming is a recipe to get stutter for anything new, it will be even worse in the future when even PS4 Pro/Scorpio games will use more than 50% more CPU power than today. Totally not worth it.
#5372411
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That CPU-Z screenshot shows the CPU at 4.2ghz and ~1.7 vcore?
Wrong screenshot, this has been replaced.

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