PlayStation 5 Teardown: up-close and personal, console uses liquid metal TIM

ACEB

2020-10-07 19:03

fantaskarsef:

Either they have a new, great liquid metal, or they just want to sell new consoles a few years later, a refresh / shrink so that people spend twice the money on the console 😀 Is it just me or does that PCB look... rather empty? When I look at my GPU's PCB, it's packed, but this... looks kind of spaced far in between to lower manufacturing costs.

Its spreads heat generation out, look at the size of the heatsink complex, its why Nvidia needed a funky cooler because of how packed their board was.

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fantaskarsef

2020-10-07 19:19

ACEB:

Its spreads heat generation out, look at the size of the heatsink complex, its why Nvidia needed a funky cooler because of how packed their board was.

Of course you are right, it helps with heat dissipation. It's just that it shouldn't be necessary... so much space should easily cool that console, after all it's got only a SOC, with little to nothing else to cool. But I guess that's ultimately the reason behind the huge console, the "far and in between" PCB, and the liquid metal.

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Fox2232

2020-10-07 19:41

5:11 - top right corner of PCB. that thing has heatpipe cooling as can be seen in cooling plate removal. (Anyone has guess what that is for? WiFi?)

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Backstabak

2020-10-07 19:45

Fox2232:

5:11 - top right corner of PCB. that thing has heatpipe cooling as can be seen in cooling plate removal. (Anyone has guess what that is for? WiFi?)

Seems like it, he even removes the antenna from it at 4:17.

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ZXRaziel

2020-10-07 19:49

Not bad Sony not bad , I wonder if that liquid metal is made by Sony themselves or it is the conductonaut . If its Sony's own good quality and it does not dry out after 1 year they should start selling it .

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Loophole35

2020-10-07 20:00

Backstabak:

Seems like it, he even removes the antenna from it at 4:17.

Fox2232:

5:11 - top right corner of PCB. that thing has heatpipe cooling as can be seen in cooling plate removal. (Anyone has guess what that is for? WiFi?)

Looks like the SSD controller is in the same area. EDIT: SSD is on the opposite side that may be a chipset.

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geogan

2020-10-07 20:41

Witcher29:

Thats one huge console jezus.

Or one tiny Japanese engineer... which is probably more likely.

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Loobyluggs

2020-10-07 21:01

geogan:

Or one tiny Japanese engineer... which is probably more likely.

Do you think there is a possibility they chose a petite employee to make the console look bigger than it is? Because...39cm is not that big, for a console...

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Digilator

2020-10-07 21:23

Loobyluggs:

Do you think there is a possibility they chose a petite employee to make the console look bigger than it is? Because...39cm is not that big, for a console...

Huh? PS5 is huge for a console...

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Loobyluggs

2020-10-07 22:00

Digilator:

Huh? PS5 is huge for a console...

I was just clarifying that I was referring to a console...and nothing else 🙂 I just measured my equipment, and yes, it is larger than the PS4 Pr0 I got, but; it is smaller than my UHD Blu-ray Player...

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BReal85

2020-10-07 22:29

anticupidon:

Well, IF sometimes I will think to buy a console, that's the one. Ease of Dissassembly - check Off the shelf NVM.: Powerfull enough: check the upcoming reviews---but point 1,2 are most important to me. Sorry XBOX, you lose this time.

Lose in terms of what? 😀

#5839981

toyo

2020-10-07 22:35

You most definitely not "need to reapply liquid metal" regularly at all. I have my 8700K delided with Conductonaut and it's been almost a year now since I last applied it, and there is no thermal degradation whatsoever. Same voltage/same ambient=same CPU/core temps months later. It's a smart choice for the console.

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anticupidon

2020-10-07 22:36

High priced custom NVMe drive? Enough said?

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jbscotchman

2020-10-07 22:43

They'll definitely have custom panels which is kinda cool. Surprised we haven't seen one for Cyberpunk and Black Ops yet.

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Maddness

2020-10-08 01:00

anticupidon:

High priced custom NVMe drive? Enough said?

Yeah that was part of the mainboard, so it's not interchangeable, unless i'm looking at the wrong part. Also that heatsink and fan are insane. This should cool it very well. Looks like a very solid build. My son keeps hassling me to get him one for Christmas.

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Maddness

2020-10-08 01:02

jbscotchman:

They'll definitely have custom panels which is kinda cool. Surprised we haven't seen one for Cyberpunk and Black Ops yet.

I've seen a pic of the Spiderman one and that looks real cool.

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theoneofgod

2020-10-08 01:30

Maddness:

I've seen a pic of the Spiderman one and that looks real cool.

If only it was real.

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Maddness

2020-10-08 01:35

theoneofgod:

If only it was real.

Oh bugger, I really thought it was.

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Loophole35

2020-10-08 01:53

jbscotchman:

They'll definitely have custom panels which is kinda cool. Surprised we haven't seen one for Cyberpunk and Black Ops yet.

As easy as they come off I’m gonna paint mine if I get one.

Maddness:

Yeah that was part of the mainboard, so it's not interchangeable, unless i'm looking at the wrong part. Also that heatsink and fan are insane. This should cool it very well. Looks like a very solid build. My son keeps hassling me to get him one for Christmas.

Well the good thing about that is that the standard SSD appears to remain and the additional M.2 drive will add to the total which is cool.

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asturur

2020-10-08 08:16

schmidtbag:

I'm a little surprised they went with one big die. I'm sure the yield would've been higher if they went with separate dies under the same package. That way, if something like a CPU core was defective but the GPU was pristine, they wouldn't have to junk the entire thing. They could maybe disable some GPU cores and release a model that's not 4K-ready, but otherwise they don't really have much flexibility for binning. It's basically an APU but instead of DDR4 it uses GDDR6 and a much beefier GPU.

Being all on the same die has its own advantage, and the yelds problems is not a sony problem. Is just an AMD problem. So with one die you get probably more performance for fast interconnect, you have only one ram connection to care about, you have one surface to cool, is just better.