Man... what took so long? Or is there a lineup of laptops with a good camera already?

Typhon Six Six Six:

Man... what took so long? Or is there a lineup of laptops with a good camera already?

An excellent question, seeing as smartphones have been absolutely thrashing even premium notebooks with their front-facing, let alone primary, camera modules for ages. Webcams, notebook webcams especially, feel like they've stood still for over a decade.

Exodite:

An excellent question, seeing as smartphones have been absolutely thrashing even premium notebooks with their front-facing, let alone primary, camera modules for ages. Webcams, notebook webcams especially, feel like they've stood still for over a decade.

So true. I have had like 4 or 5 laptops in my time and all the cameras were trash. Even on a 2k laptop. You would think even in 2010 that should not have even been a problem. I think the best laptop needs a screen you can read off cooling that works and a battery that last with a good front and back camera lol its almost 2023 and laptops have VCR quality cameras LOL.

Manufacturers are cheap, and they'll cheap out on things people can't see before purchase and actually testing it. Like putting a beast of a CPU but no actual cooling so the poor thing runs at thermal throttle and never reaches peak performance. Companies have become bold the past 10 years, making increasingly crappy products and charging more. People buy anyway.

Typhon Six Six Six:

Man... what took so long? Or is there a lineup of laptops with a good camera already?

Exodite:

An excellent question, seeing as smartphones have been absolutely thrashing even premium notebooks with their front-facing, let alone primary, camera modules for ages. Webcams, notebook webcams especially, feel like they've stood still for over a decade.

The reason is actually pretty simple: ARM SoCs have a dedicated camera interface, whereas x86 systems don't. x86 laptops are pretty much limited only to USB cameras, and since USB 2.0 is cheaper and less complex, they use USB 2.0 cameras. USB 2.0 can really only support 720p; most that claim to support 1080p are just doing upscaled 720p, though I think some manage to pull off legit 1080p with better encoding.

must be the first webcam sensor since 2008 or so they claim its just too damn hard because of today's tiny bezels, as if phones had any, and they even go squished between a screen and a battery/soc and still manage to look better, I guess phones are just magical like that its a vicious cycle of loud users claiming they dont care = OEMs skimp on it = it suckks = no one uses it = users say they dont care and on and on and on