NVIDIA to release GTX 1060 SKU with faster GDDR5X Graphics Memory

#5598553

H83

2018-10-20 18:10

Silva:

I'm waiting for the RX590 and praying it doesn't cost an arm and a leg (more than 250€).

My crystal ball tells me that the 590 is going to cost between 300 and 350€.

#5598569

Kaarme

2018-10-20 19:07

Astyanax:

GDDR5x has particulars about optimisation that will make these cards pretty poor for compute work initially.

Ooh. I was wondering why AMD didn't give 590 a DDR5X treatment, but that explains it. Gotta keep 'em crypto miners happy.

#5598574

Robbo9999

2018-10-20 19:16

Embra:

Will this not be bumping into the 1070??? How about the 2060?? I would rather see that. Thanks HH.

No, I don't think so, hardly a chance of it getting close to the 1070 in performance. For a start the VRAM bandwidth would still be lower than that of the GTX 1070, plus you have significantly more cores on the GTX 1070. There was a massive gap in performance between GTX 1070 and GTX 1060, that bandwidth increase won't encroach too much on that, the GTX 1070 has 50% more cores than the GTX 1060.

#5598666

schmidtbag

2018-10-21 05:28

What's the point? Like really, why not just make this the 2050Ti? Nvidia isn't doing tensor cores in their sub-2070 products, so why release yet another 1060?

#5598668

HARDRESET

2018-10-21 06:10

Dazz:

You forgot the GTX 1060 5GB version for the China Market with 160bit bus 😀 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/MAXSUN-GTX1060-Terminator-5G-video-card-5G-160bit-GDDR5-8008MHz-1506-1708MHz-1280units-PCI-Express-3/32859186534.html

Saw that on Linus Tech Tips !

#5598683

Fox2232

2018-10-21 09:21

schmidtbag:

What's the point? Like really, why not just make this the 2050Ti? Nvidia isn't doing tensor cores in their sub-2070 products, so why release yet another 1060?

End result is the target. There is no need to look for complicated explanation. They make chips. And not all meet criteria to be this or that. They want them sold. Confusing customers into buying something else under same name is easiest way to do it. You can point finger on AMD's RX-580 2048 edition.

#5598705

Neo Cyrus

2018-10-21 12:13

Reddoguk:

A decent 1060 goes toe to toe with a 980, so i can imagine the new boosted memory ones will be in line with a 980Ti.

I doubt it. Unless my memory is screwed the 1060 lost to the 980 in most the game benchmarks I looked at, and a 980 Ti was a lightyear ahead of the 1060. I doubt any sort of memory could close that gap even if the 1060 was bandwidth starved. Even if it did match the 980 Ti, which it won't, that'd still suck for $300 USD, that's still 2014 performance.

#5598715

Silva

2018-10-21 12:46

H83:

My crystal ball tells me that the 590 is going to cost between 300 and 350€.

Having a new smaller process node that is already in use for Zen+, one would think they could get good yields and cram more chips on a wafer reducing cost. But I think you might be right because Nvidia has no rush to lower prices and AMD just has to price it slightly lower than the new 1060.

#5598716

-Tj-

2018-10-21 12:53

Neo Cyrus:

I doubt it. Unless my memory is screwed the 1060 lost to the 980 in most the game benchmarks I looked at, and a 980 Ti was a lightyear ahead of the 1060. I doubt any sort of memory could close that gap even if the 1060 was bandwidth starved. Even if it did match the 980 Ti, which it won't, that'd still suck for $300 USD, that's still 2014 performance.

Exactly. Moderate 1.4ghz 980ti goes head to head with 1070ti, nvm 1060..

#5598721

moo100times

2018-10-21 13:43

Business > innovation. Clearing inventory and making money is no.1! They won't be pushed to release new hardware as well until they have any reasonable rivalry, and considering console hardware is in low-middle tier PC GPU territory, at this rate may be a while before we see real mid-range innovation. Hoping AMD shakes things up somewhat, let's see!

#5598736

schmidtbag

2018-10-21 15:21

Fox2232:

End result is the target. There is no need to look for complicated explanation. They make chips. And not all meet criteria to be this or that. They want them sold. Confusing customers into buying something else under same name is easiest way to do it. You can point finger on AMD's RX-580 2048 edition.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy with AMD's re-releases one bit. But this is the first time I recall where anyone is releasing an older product with an older name when they already have newer tech available of a newer generation available. It's counter-intuitive, because I'm sure this thing is going to be totally obsoleted and forgotten in a few months. If this was just a rebrand and put into the 2000 series, I wouldn't say anything. But for them to release a 1000 series now just seems weird.

#5598799

HARDRESET

2018-10-21 20:51

Bought a EVGA 8800GTsc ,did the step up to 9800GTX /then plus and then 250GTS , also had a 9800GTXplus and the 250GTS in SLI .

#5598821

KissSh0t

2018-10-21 22:37

schmidtbag:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy with AMD's re-releases one bit. But this is the first time I recall where anyone is releasing an older product with an older name when they already have newer tech available of a newer generation available. It's counter-intuitive, because I'm sure this thing is going to be totally obsoleted and forgotten in a few months. If this was just a rebrand and put into the 2000 series, I wouldn't say anything. But for them to release a 1000 series now just seems weird.

I can't help but feel the reason is Miners, they ended up making too many chips and now they need to get rid of them because Mining exploded in their face so they need to sell Video Cards to gamers again, that could be one explanation as to why the new series are being priced so ridiculously high.

#5598829

ruthan

2018-10-21 22:54

Lets hope that they will not name it Geforce 2080 M64 Vanta MX Turbo cache.

#5598842

Killian38

2018-10-21 23:14

I can see this card being fine for most people for years to come. Let's not be silly tho. We are not buying jewelry. No need for nvidia to mark the card up 2k%. This card is worth $179.00 US max. That is taking in to account 100% profit margin.

#5598887

Monchis

2018-10-22 03:54

ruthan:

Lets hope that they will not name it Geforce 2080 M64 Vanta MX Turbo cache.

After the gt 1030 ddr4 scandal, they have no right to name it anything different.

#5599519

Bansaku

2018-10-24 01:55

I think it's safe to assume which of the GTX line got returned en mass from the vendors. 😛

#5599765

Celcius

2018-10-24 21:08

Yeah, I'm thinking Nvidia and/or it's board partners must be sitting on a freakin' mountain of GP106 chips, and that is what is motivating them to pull this maneuver. It can be rationalized by portraying this card as a response to the still-unseen RX 590, but I think that is just a fortunate coincidence for Nvidia. If Jensen wanted to turn some knobs on the 1060 design, turning the one marked "Price" briskly counter-clockwise would be a good start. The 1060's 2nd birthday was last July. Knocking about $35.00USD off a 6Gb model at this point will do more to make that surplus disappear than adding GDDR5X. Besides, the 1060 with the 9GHz memory that was available barely moved the framerate needle outside margin-of-error levels vs. the 8GHz cards.

#5599817

airbud7

2018-10-24 23:48

Clawedge:

That's just sad. I remember the good old days when performance would literally double every year. Now we have 2 year old hard ware with a few tweaks and a new sticker totalling to about 10 percent in performance increase. It truly is a sad state. Shames me to say this being in the IT industry for more than a decade

could it be that mankind is behind? ....maybe you should tell us what the next best thing is? ....I love new Stuff!