NVIDIA quietly rolled out a 16 GB variant of the GeForce RTX 4060 Ti today

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Undying

2023-07-18 17:50

Hilbert will you do the review of this card at all?

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tsunami231

2023-07-18 18:00

yes i want to see just how much gains if any there are

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alanm

2023-07-18 18:31

First 16gb card on a 128-bit bus. Regardless of mem capacity, wonder how well it will be utilized on a bandwidth constricted bus.

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Reddoguk

2023-07-18 20:31

My guess is it only increases performance by a few % over the lesser version.

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Airbud

2023-07-18 21:09

Reddoguk:

My guess is it only increases performance by a few % over the lesser version.

Agree, nowhere close to 4070 performance even with 4GB more vram. Unlike the 3060ti to 3070 the performance gap between 4060ti to 4070 is Huge.

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HybOj

2023-07-18 22:29

Reddoguk:

My guess is it only increases performance by a few % over the lesser version.

performance will be identical until the 8gb limit is hit. Than the difference will be 4 vs 80fps as a example.

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Undying

2023-07-18 23:25

HybOj:

performance will be identical until the 8gb limit is hit. Than the difference will be 4 vs 80fps as a example.

1% lows will be much better than the 8gb version.

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Kool64

2023-07-18 23:27

it'll give you the warm fuzzy feeling of knowing you can turn on all of the textures but it won't be able to fill the memory fast enough.

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XP-200

2023-07-18 23:34

Hard luck Nvida as my old ATI Rad 9250 from 2004 already came with a 128 bit bus, so hard luck suckers, i don't need your modern e-landfill trash. 😛 Lol

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TheDeeGee

2023-07-18 23:47

Rolled out, or rolled by?

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Undying

2023-07-18 23:48

It will run out gpu power before it can use all that memory especially with 128bit bus. It still wont run 1440p as good as 4070. Someone here said it would be better if it had 160bit bus and 10gb vram. I agree with that.

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Airbud

2023-07-19 00:00

Undying:

1% lows will be much better than the 8gb version.

Undying:

It will run out gpu power before it can use all that memory especially with 128bit bus. It still wont run 1440p as good as 4070. Someone here said it would be better if it had 160bit bus and 10gb vram. I agree with that.

Agree Makes you wonder what a 16GB 3060Ti vs 8GB 3070 would have performed like today?....that 128bit bus is a chokehold on this new xx60 card. I give credit where credit is due the 4 series is very power efficient!

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DannyD

2023-07-19 00:29

Complain cards don't have enough vram -nvidia doubles down on vram capacity Complain cards aren't powerful enough

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Airbud

2023-07-19 01:53

DannyD:

Complain cards don't have enough vram -nvidia doubles down on vram capacity Complain cards aren't powerful enough

This^....in a nutshell.

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Agonist

2023-07-19 02:06

DannyD:

Complain cards don't have enough vram -nvidia doubles down on vram capacity Complain cards aren't powerful enough

They are doing this all ass backwards. The wrong cards getting lots of the vram, and they are crippled too. And the complaints are justified, even more now.

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Venix

2023-07-19 05:04

DannyD:

Complain cards don't have enough vram -nvidia doubles down on vram capacity Complain cards aren't powerful enough

Complain cards don't have enough vram -nvidia doubles down on vram capacity selling 8 extra gb for 100 bucks while they about 30. Complain cards aren't powerful enough because if we check specs and chip size and specs ....this is a 4050 renamed to 4060 for 500 bucks ... There I fixed it for you !

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bballfreak6

2023-07-19 05:05

Agonist:

They are doing this all ass backwards. The wrong cards getting lots of the vram, and they are crippled too. And the complaints are justified, even more now.

Wouldn't be surprised if it's an intended business move. People that buy the high end cards to turn on all the settings at 4K that actually need the extra VRAM will be compelled to upgrade the instant next gen comes out with that extra bit of VRAM because they're VRAM starved while people that looks to get the lower-mid tier cards and/or don't know better will be tricked into buying the card because "ohhh more VRAM".

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vestibule

2023-07-19 07:44

Looks like its a paper launch? Apparently no one is sampling this card? Apparently no one has any stock? So to summarise, apparently nothing. [youtube=stg50oIuTEg]

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moo100times

2023-07-19 09:33

I wonder if this at least have a place for any ML/GPU accelerated software which is particularly VRAM dependent on a smaller budget. Can't find any benchmarks for it though which is a shame.

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Ormy

2023-07-19 11:28

DannyD:

Complain cards don't have enough vram -nvidia doubles down on vram capacity Complain cards aren't powerful enough

It was never just the Vram amount, most of us were also complaining about the low memory bus width. And that is still an issue. If they had given the 4060/4060ti a 192 or 256bit bus width from the start, this extra vram could have made a big difference. But of course nvidia can't allow that, it might out-compete the 4070. Just look at the memory bandwidth figures. The 4060 and 4060ti are beaten on memory bandwidth by the 3060, and even beaten by something really old like the 980ti. This is where Nvidia's greed is laid bare, putting a 192 or 256 bit memory bus width on the 4060/4060ti would not have increased their costs by much at all, but it would have increased performance quite a bit. They can't have that, they need an offering to fill the budget segment of the market, but they needed to limit performance (without it being too obvious they're doing so) to encourage people to spend even more on a higher tier card instead. Limiting memory bandwidth is the best way to achieve that.