Nvidia Profits Tripled In Q4 2016
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sverek
Pascal release was very successful for Nvidia. Great performance of GTX1070 / GTX1080 finally justified people buying 1440@144hz panels. And while all this happening AMD has literally nothing to offer.
AMD stood still while people were throwing money at Nvidia.
cryohellinc
Nvidia should not make a same mistakes Intel currently makes. Intel slacked far too long, and result is now AMD will introduce a better product at lower price. Might be a substential kick for them, i doubt Vega will be much better then Pascal ( i will be disgusted if AMD wont at least match the gtx 1080 performance ) otherwise we will see next nvidia card gtx 1180 at 1500$ per piece. Disgusting.
xIcarus
Well normally I would argue that the 1070 and upper aren't a significant portion of the market, but last gen the 970 was the most popular gaming card.
AMD do have the 480 which is really a better choice in that segment (they've evolved really well from launch and they will probably ontinue to do so) - however they're not only losing sales from the high-end, but from the entry-level as well. The 460 is not a bad card but the 1050Ti is simply murder at the same price as the 4GB 460. It's not even remotely a competition.
The only cards AMD are massively selling right now are the 470 and 480, where the 1060 also competes (and is doing an ok job). The rest of the lineup simply goes to Nvidia.
Stormyandcold
Not suprised. Enjoying my card.
Noisiv
Insane profits and all around growth.
Nvidia is 60 billion $ company as of today.
Three years ago when GTX 780 Ti launched, Nvidia's total enterprise value was only 6 billion.
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/enterprisevalue.asp
buhehe
That's a nice looking crystal ball you have there
nz3777
I am not surprised at all,Team Green has been calling the shot's for some time now and I do not see that changing anytime soon! My last Amd gpu was a Radeon 6970 I have not looked back since then, the only card I was considering at the time was a R9 290X, and I still like the 295x2- Beast of a card! I do wonder howcome both Nvidia does not make dual-gpu video card's anymore?
Looking at old Gpu benchmark's is not as fun as before,It was like porn to me. Haha
schmidtbag
Very presumptuous of you. We enthusiasts are a relatively small crowd. I highly doubt that Nvidia's growth came from the 1070 and 1080 - the 1070, though fairly priced, is still expensive, and the 1080 is really a niche market. There are more likely causes for Nvidia's success, such as the 1050Ti, 1060, mobile platforms, maybe Nintendo Switch, but most of all, servers (which likely make up more of their revenue than all their other sales combined). Also, AMD wasn't standing still, they were (and still are) in the process of getting the 490 released. Pascal was released at a pretty inconvenient time for them.
Regardless, I'd say Nvidia did earn their success. Pascal is the best thing they released since their Tesla architecture, and they're a very solid competitor in ARM.
chronek
Now you know whay NVidia inccreased their gpu prices (when production cost goes lower) they do it just for happy announcment of doubled, tripled, quadrupled, tredecupled profit... Everything just for announce...
PrMinisterGR
I'm glad for that actually. I don't like a lot of their practices, but NVIDIA has been a small company showing that with the proper talent you can do miracles.
chronek
i hope you know that their success is only because no competition over last years, they are alone on market (amd bought ati but gpu is not their main product and other corps leaved long time ago, nvidia dictate everything)
Denial
When did production costs go lower? Architectures are more expensive than ever to develop. 16nmFF was the first die shrink that didn't bring cost savings per transistor.
Gaming makes up the most of their revenue, $1.348B. Datacenters were only $296M. GTX1070 only trails the 1060 by .68% marketshare on steam where as the 1080 is 2% lower. When you consider the margins on the 1070, I think it's a safe bet that a huge chunk of their profit is coming from it. I don't know whether AMD having a card in that price range would have made much of a difference though - it didn't really seem to matter with Maxwell despite the fact that the 970 was arguably the lesser card.
AMD is far more competitive in graphics than they are in CPUs. Fury X was basically right on the heels of a 980Ti and at various price points AMD actually beats Nvidia. So I'm not sure why you think Nvidia has no competition.
riot83
Actually it is the highend that is bringing in the most money:
https://www.jonpeddie.com/press-releases/details/pc-gaming-hardware-market-minting-billions
PrMinisterGR
There is competition just fine actually. This is the first year that AMD didn't have a $400+ contender, and it's starting to look that it happened because their next top end is going to be here almost a year earlier than NVIDIA's. This is not at all like the CPU race.
NVIDIA is making a lot of money because they had the brains to invest in using GPUs for other tasks, most notably deep learning. They are getting crazy amounts of money from that, and CUDA is the de facto standard for the academia.
fry178
@chronek
****ty when you can't validate that statement.
please go back 10y, or even to 4600TI days, and check prices for all of the top 2 models until last year, and compare to price for 1070/1080.
from exceptions , i dont see a big difference in prices.
2002: 4600ti sells for 400$
2017: 1080 sells for 600$
thats + 14$/per year, yeah, Nv really milking us here...
and im even ignoring things like changes in cost/inflation etc...
Dellers
Not surprising considering the fact that for instance the 1080 was 27% more expensive in dollars than the predecessor. Quite surprising that they're selling well with that price increase combined with the expensive dollar. GPU prices have doubled here in Norway in a very short time.
alanm
Nv stock price also up 224% for 2016.
Seems they expect to do even better in 2017. Breakdown of revenue by market area:
[spoiler]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4QT-5xUoAA-wIC.jpg[/spoiler]
chronek
I say there is no competition over last years, NVidia dominated high-end cards market, and games last years demanded high-end gpu-s, AMD dominated low/mid-end card market and low cpu market last years, intel dominated high-end cpu-s last years. AMD didnt focus onlu on gpu or only cpu, they have lower-cards-cpus market, but last years games demand high end components, so there was no competition for nvidia or intel and they can do what they did, when technology going futher and production costs lowerig due new technology they incresaed prices.... I could say there was no competition, they just split market... If they had competition prices would be 4 times lower, look for smarphone market that is healthy competition and you can get high tech for low price
fry178
@Dellers
just because the sellers charge you twice as much, doesn't mean Nv gets twice as much money.
and how much faster is the 1080 (vs 980) ??
and its not like someone buying a 1080 (plus the "needed" hardware to run it at expected performance level), will have to turn around a go to salvation army the next day to feed their family.
besides that, no one gets forced to buy certain hardware, last time i checked,
and anything that's not food/cloth/shelter (maybe even transportation),
is WANT, not NEED.
chronek
Each generation of smartphones are 2-5x faster then previos, but they are cheaper and cheaper
btw did you know that production cost of that 9000$ intel procesor is the same as 500$ procesors? and maybe even lower because of clocks? but there is no competition
Game market forcing you to buy high-end cards, if you not buy game will be unplayable, but game market is influenced by gpu market, they even pay them to games have high requarment and play only on theirs gpu, it is the same forced business like microsoft doings, when you have to have lastest bloatware system with only apps from their market because lastest cpu and gpu and games will work only on that, because they payed for that and they get profit from that
