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Early speculation... but at least it might have 4GB vram, which is the sweetspot for me @1440p. I'm not too bothered by the fact that it probably not a "full" Maxxwell, because if they keep the pattern, the "full" editions of the cards will be branded as refresh 900 series and it will take up to 2 years from now for that to come out. No way I will wait that much with my upgrade.
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Why do people complain about price from the ultra high end cards? You don't have to buy it, I've never had a game I couldn't max out with a £250 card, you have to be an idiot to buy a £500 card. You'll never use most of it's potential as Game software doesn't require and within a year it is dated because they've made new features that are new card only. Like people going on about needing a 780ti or whatever for 1440p resolutions..... like no, it isn't true and especially with these new low level APIs coming out. Why do you have to run games at 240hrz/120hrz or whatever? I've got a 120hrz monitor and I see no difference in gameplay between that and my 60hrz one in CS:GO or any Racing Sim I play. I'm just convinced people buy into numbers and convince themselves it looks better or something. The only thing they're probably seeing is latency has to be less on a 120hrz panel or ghosting will appear, where the latency can be a bit higher on a 60hrz panel before you see ghosting. Once stuff like G sync becomes popular, it wont matter needing to hit a certain FPS to lock it so you don't get screen tearing any ways.
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Gtx 880 crap!! I don't like GTX 880!!! Because GM204 chip will be mid-end or bottom-high-end and have only 256-bit. 😕 But I will buy new top-end single GPU card (eg: GTX Titan 2 or GTX Titan Maxwell). 🙂 "GTX Titan xxx" is fast double precision. 😉
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If you imagine the amount of data that your gfx card is processing as a motorway, the speed of the traffic is the memory speed and the bus size is the number of lanes. Bandwidth = bus size x memory speed. If you have enough bandwidth then great and they don't build gfx cards that are crippled in that aread but trust me, there is a point where if the memory bandwidth is too low, your gfx card performance will suffer and bottleneck the rest of the GPU.
True, but there are ways to alleviate that where narrow bus widths can be made more efficient, ie, thru advanced compression techniques and where enough bandwidth can be squeezed out to compete with much high bus-width cards. Example, 660ti (192bus) vs 7950 (384bus). Even at high res, 2560x1600, look how well it does: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/56432-gtx-660-ti-roundup-asus-evga-gigabyte-galaxy-msi-9.html So bus-width is not the be-all end-all of GPU performance, especially with newer or different architecture cards.
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Why do people complain about price from the ultra high end cards? You don't have to buy it, I've never had a game I couldn't max out with a £250 card, you have to be an idiot to buy a £500 card. You'll never use most of it's potential as Game software doesn't require and within a year it is dated because they've made new features that are new card only. Like people going on about needing a 780ti or whatever for 1440p resolutions..... like no, it isn't true and especially with these new low level APIs coming out. Why do you have to run games at 240hrz/120hrz or whatever? I've got a 120hrz monitor and I see no difference in gameplay between that and my 60hrz one in CS:GO or any Racing Sim I play. I'm just convinced people buy into numbers and convince themselves it looks better or something. The only thing they're probably seeing is latency has to be less on a 120hrz panel or ghosting will appear, where the latency can be a bit higher on a 60hrz panel before you see ghosting. Once stuff like G sync becomes popular, it wont matter needing to hit a certain FPS to lock it so you don't get screen tearing any ways.
If you cant tell the diff between 60hz vs 120hz, then what do you hope to get out of g-sync? Also, im well aware that im not forced to buy anything. Thanks for that generic comment. But lets get real here. Games require more and more brute force these days and devs are either getting lazy or or given less and less time to optimize. And i doubt you can max oit every game with one £250 card. Last. Sli is not broken, cant speak for amd users and dual+ cards. Get ovet it. It works and i wouldnt bother gaming on pc without it at the current price of ti' and titans these days, unless i was just playing emulators.
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I don't like GTX 880!!! Because GM204 chip will be mid-end or bottom-high-end and have only 256-bit. 😕 But I will buy new top-end single GPU card (eg: GTX Titan 2 or GTX Titan Maxwell). 🙂 "GTX Titan xxx" is fast double precision. 😉
Funny how your title says "gtx 880 crap!" with thumbs down while you havn't even seen a review. (sorry i should have known... "don't feed the trolls")
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Funny how your title says "gtx 880 crap!" with thumbs down while you havn't even seen a review. (sorry i should have known... "don't feed the trolls")
Trolls!?!?!? NO!! It's normal!
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Now Now, lets not have another watch dogs thread. Assume every comment is based on the OP.
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Why do people complain about price from the ultra high end cards? You don't have to buy it, I've never had a game I couldn't max out with a £250 card, you have to be an idiot to buy a £500 card. You'll never use most of it's potential as Game software doesn't require and within a year it is dated because they've made new features that are new card only. Like people going on about needing a 780ti or whatever for 1440p resolutions..... like no, it isn't true and especially with these new low level APIs coming out. Why do you have to run games at 240hrz/120hrz or whatever? I've got a 120hrz monitor and I see no difference in gameplay between that and my 60hrz one in CS:GO or any Racing Sim I play. I'm just convinced people buy into numbers and convince themselves it looks better or something. The only thing they're probably seeing is latency has to be less on a 120hrz panel or ghosting will appear, where the latency can be a bit higher on a 60hrz panel before you see ghosting. Once stuff like G sync becomes popular, it wont matter needing to hit a certain FPS to lock it so you don't get screen tearing any ways.
For a start the GTX680/580 and 480 all released at around £400, it's only been the Titan et al. which have had the prices pumped, with the 780 at £500 and the 780Ti at £600, which means the price is now £200 more than before and £100 more than even the 780 which was already over the odds. Secondly you may well be maxing the games YOU play but you are not for a fact maxing every game at 60fps like Crysis 3, Metro, Assetto Corsa, need I go on? Finally SLI has been working perfectly for me on my 690 apart from a few less high profile games that don't support it which for me hasn't been many and some of those you can get SLI bits working in nvidia inspector.
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Why do people complain about price from the ultra high end cards? You don't have to buy it, I've never had a game I couldn't max out with a £250 card, you have to be an idiot to buy a £500 card. You'll never use most of it's potential as Game software doesn't require and within a year it is dated because they've made new features that are new card only. Like people going on about needing a 780ti or whatever for 1440p resolutions..... like no, it isn't true and especially with these new low level APIs coming out. Why do you have to run games at 240hrz/120hrz or whatever?
I disagree. I'm pretty much always able to utilize my graphic cards, and I usually buy high end stuff. I think that's required to play games how I want them to be. Personally I wouldn't buy anything less than two 780Ti cards for 1440p. If I went 1440p now 780Ti SLI would be the only thing I'd consider. That is barely enough to keep some games above 60 fps, and it's not like everyone changes hardware every year. I do not, but I still want to be able to achieve 60 fps for a while, not just in previously released games. Also, some of us use 3d. That requires a 120 Hz screen and some serious graphics card power. For premium gaming experiences it takes a lot of really expensive hardware, but I think it's worth it and have no problems utilizing everything.
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So bus-width is not the be-all end-all of GPU performance, especially with newer or different architecture cards.
definitely. An 8bit bus would be fine if the bus speed was high enough. People shouldn't get hung up on numbers without understanding the big picture.
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definitely. An 8bit bus would be fine if the bus speed was high enough. People shouldn't get hung up on numbers without understanding the big picture.
But we dont know if the bus speed is going to be high enough to compensate, so to say 'If he bus speed is fast enough etc etc'.. Is also speculation. But the the assumption of 256 being to small is based on past cards and thats what most people are going on.
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I've got a 120hrz monitor and I see no difference in gameplay between that and my 60hrz one in CS:GO or any Racing Sim I play. I'm just convinced people buy into numbers and convince themselves it looks better or something. The only thing they're probably seeing is latency has to be less on a 120hrz panel or ghosting will appear, where the latency can be a bit higher on a 60hrz panel before you see ghosting.
YOU, make sure your 120hz monitor has it's own 120hz screen profile in Windows. If it does, grab a window and move it across your 2 screens. Notice the smoother movement on the 120hz one. If you still can't see any difference, try to find out if you can make your backlight strobe at 120hz. This will almost completely remove ghosting and you'd have to be blind not to see the difference.
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Faster bandwidth memory = faster pixel fillrate. 🙂
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But you can load the vram as much as you want, but it the bus is still only got x amount of lanes, then its still going to take the same amount of time. Sure theres the 'its more effective at higher res's' argument, but then youd be limited by the performance of the actual gpu itself. if these indeed turn out to be the final product, then i still go to the 880 as the cost of a new highend is the same as the cost of the previous gens highend, the prices dont drop in NZ, they just wait until stock has sold out and sell the new release highend and last highend side by side with a $40-60 price diff.
My 680s at 7200 had sufficient memory bandwidth at 230gb's. This clocked at 7400 and most likely oc to 8ghz is sufficient.
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My 680s at 7200 had sufficient memory bandwidth at 230gb's. This clocked at 7400 and most likely oc to 8ghz is sufficient.
Hope so, im just looking at so called leaked specs and then speculating. If it turns out to be enough then super.
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These specs seem like bull**** to me.
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It is enough you have to take into account memory speed. My 680s had more bandwidth than my 580s and both had sufficient bandwidth.
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We'll looks like I will be waiting on the Maxwell refresh if this is true.
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Now where's that for sale section be at? Jajajaja it think its time