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CPU's are more than fast enough to keep up. You are still using i7 950 that's a platform that was released in 2009 and its now 2014. CPU's may not have come a very long way, but the upgrade path is still there. I recently went from an i7 960 D0 @ 4.2GHz 12GB 1600MHz memory to my current i7 4770K @ 4.5GHz and 16GB 1866MHz memory. I have seen a pretty nice improvement in performance, at least 30-40%. Not so much in terms of maximum fps but 100% in minimum fps. Borderlands 2 maxed out dropped to around 55fps 1080p now I barely drop below 70fps using the same GPU. That is just one example. If you really want to go SLI or Crossfire, to make the most out of it, you really need to go X79 and the enthusiast platform not the Z87 mainstream platform even though the 4770K and other Haswell chips when overclocked are more than capable of running multiple GPU's.
I know that my CPU is old, but I still intend to keep it for a long while. The new CPUs still aren't fast enough to be worth the upgrade IMO. About twice the performance would now cost about twice as much as what I paid for my CPU several years ago. Even if I bought a 1000$ CPU now I'd still be very underwhelmed. I'd like to see something significantly better soon, so that having 120 Hz screens and such actually matter more. In several recent games it's hard to get even a constant 60 fps because the CPU can't keep up with everything else judging by benchmarks and what not. It's not like the typical CPU intensive stuff in games is impressive these days anyway, so essentially you'll see a little over 60 fps even though nothing impressive is going on. SLI is now only useful for high resolutions.
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The big question for me on this gen that will make me buy them is, will a SLI of GTX880 be enough for 4k gaming? else ill wait for 9 series.
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Hopefully the 870 will be worth it and reasonably priced.... but it's nvidia, so it wont be 🙂
I was thinking the same, 870 can be interesting card but most likely to be fast as 780 for quite less cash.
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Not interested, full GM200 or nothing :P Also just got the gpu and Im sure it will run fine @ 1080p all those next -gen games. I mean it has 5tflops+ and it ran U4E elemental @62fps all the time using extra tweaks for more gfx 😀
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I know that my CPU is old, but I still intend to keep it for a long while. The new CPUs still aren't fast enough to be worth the upgrade IMO. About twice the performance would now cost about twice as much as what I paid for my CPU several years ago. Even if I bought a 1000$ CPU now I'd still be very underwhelmed. I'd like to see something significantly better soon, so that having 120 Hz screens and such actually matter more. In several recent games it's hard to get even a constant 60 fps because the CPU can't keep up with everything else judging by benchmarks and what not. It's not like the typical CPU intensive stuff in games is impressive these days anyway, so essentially you'll see a little over 60 fps even though nothing impressive is going on. SLI is now only useful for high resolutions.
Keep your 950, its fine for gaming,as long as the cpu does not bottleneck your gpu then your good to go for gaming. Tbh even though i have a 4930 its no different in gaming to what my 930 was and anybody that tells you any different is just trying to justify there purchase. That is the truth of it with no BS.
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Think I'll start saving for an i7 and 8xx, or at least wait until the new year sales and get a 770 OC for a good price...
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well im happy with my 780s , the 8xxx will have to be something quite special for me to upgrade this time , the one thing that does worry me is the 3g of vram on my cards , the only game i have problems with is watchdogs and the dam stuttering albeit some what reduced now with the mods . We will just have to wait and see what new games come out and how much vram they need . Fingers crossed that my card will last me at least the next 2 years.
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Will be waiting on the higher end chips, not falling for the mid range chips labeled as high-end parts. My 780 Classifieds still have a good amount of life, so ill wait out and see the 20nm or lower high-end chips in a year or two.
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I'd be going for the Ti, or the full GM200 (together with a completely new built system). I would even consider investing in the increased VRAM if it at least makes the card able to skip two generations like I did right now.
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Keep your 950, its fine for gaming,as long as the cpu does not bottleneck your gpu then your good to go for gaming. Tbh even though i have a 4930 its no different in gaming to what my 930 was and anybody that tells you any different is just trying to justify there purchase. That is the truth of it with no BS.
Not completely true. At stock speeds, the 4930 is 10% faster than a 920 in Metro. Other games will show the same to more or lesser extent: http://www.techspot.com/review/670-metro-last-light-performance/page6.html Yes you can overclock both but there will still be a performance difference. You might not think it's very big but there is a difference and if you are packing top end GPUs, especially in SLI, you should also be looking at a reasonably modern and fast CPU.
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I see no difference in the games ive been playing, i still get the same fps. I see no performance increase regarding gaming. I don't care what graphs or charts that you throw up cause ive seen it with my own eyes. X58 is still a great gaming platform and there is no need to move from it unless your cpu is hitting the oc threshold and causing bottleneck on your card(s). There will be a time were 4ghz ain't enough but atm its ok. Ive seen this through my owns eyes and that is what counts for me. My own experience and not somebody elses. I was on x58 for 6 years, i know that architecture better than anyone and if it wasn't for this golden batch 4930 id still be on x58 right now. My gpu smashes all other nvidia cards for performance so cpu is really irrelavent unless your under 4ghz on a quad and even though 3.8 is enough to eliminate bottleneck. Even if there is a 10% increase is it worth spending all that money for 10%, no it isn't so my point still stands in my previous post. There will be a time to upgrade from x58 for gaming but atm to those people wondering i really wouldnt bother. Stick with what you have for now, its good enough aslong as you have a decent card.
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I see no difference in the games ive been playing, i still get the same fps. I see no performance increase regarding gaming. I don't care what graphs or charts that you throw up cause ive seen it with my own eyes. X58 is still a great gaming platform and there is no need to move from it unless your cpu is hitting the oc threshold and causing bottleneck on your card(s). There will be a time were 4ghz ain't enough but atm its ok. Ive seen this through my owns eyes and that is what counts for me. My own experience and not somebody elses. I was on x58 for 6 years, i know that architecture better than anyone and if it wasn't for this golden batch 4930 id still be on x58 right now. My gpu smashes all other nvidia cards for performance so cpu is really irrelavent unless your under 4ghz on a quad and even though 3.8 is enough to eliminate bottleneck. Even if there is a 10% increase is it worth spending all that money for 10%, no it isn't so my point still stands in my previous post. There will be a time to upgrade from x58 for gaming but atm to those people wondering i really wouldnt bother. Stick with what you have for now, its good enough aslong as you have a decent card.
Agreed, im still on x58, with an i7 920, zero point upgrading, gamings great on em.
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Next big jump in performance will be Intel's proper 8 core cpu's until then I''ll just stick with my 2500k.
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I see no difference in the games ive been playing, i still get the same fps. I see no performance increase regarding gaming. I don't care what graphs or charts that you throw up cause ive seen it with my own eyes. X58 is still a great gaming platform and there is no need to move from it unless your cpu is hitting the oc threshold and causing bottleneck on your card(s). There will be a time were 4ghz ain't enough but atm its ok. Ive seen this through my owns eyes and that is what counts for me. My own experience and not somebody elses. I was on x58 for 6 years, i know that architecture better than anyone and if it wasn't for this golden batch 4930 id still be on x58 right now. My gpu smashes all other nvidia cards for performance so cpu is really irrelavent unless your under 4ghz on a quad and even though 3.8 is enough to eliminate bottleneck. Even if there is a 10% increase is it worth spending all that money for 10%, no it isn't so my point still stands in my previous post. There will be a time to upgrade from x58 for gaming but atm to those people wondering i really wouldnt bother. Stick with what you have for now, its good enough aslong as you have a decent card.
You will bet a boost oc that monster cpu. But I agree x58 at 4ghz is good enough atm unlessl your running 3 or 4 ultra high end gpus. You probable would get a boost upgrading an x58 cpu with 2 cards 780ti titan 290 290x but I wouldn't expect miracles.
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Next big jump in performance will be Intel's proper 8 core cpu's until then I''ll just stick with my 2500k.
If DX12 gets adopted fast, I wonder for how many years extra Sandy Bridge will last. Mantle support for BF4 did wonders for old/slow CPUs like the Core 2 Quads and Phenom X4s
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Because it won't scale up as well with next generation games and resolutions. Not everyone upgrades every series. Watchdogs is like a perfect example of developers not giving a **** because they have 6+GB of ram available on consoles. Once games that actually utilize that 6GB of ram start popping up with unnecessarily large texture sizes that 256bit bus is going to **** the bed.
Developers are just being lazy. Just look how incredible a game like Skyrim can look when modded with all sorts of textures, effects, etc... and from my extensive use of mods, the only time I ran beyond 3gb of vram was when i was using 4k textures and downsampling from 4k to 1200p with 60+ mods. These new consoles don't even have the processing power to do graphics anywhere close that, so the ONLY reason why developers could possibly run past 3gb vram use is because nothing was optimized, no vram compression, and they were lazy. Especially since consoles aren't using high quality anti-aliasing or even high resolution.
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If DX12 gets adopted fast, I wonder for how many years extra Sandy Bridge will last. Mantle support for BF4 did wonders for old/slow CPUs like the Core 2 Quads and Phenom X4s
With >5 year old CPU (hehe) I'm rarely CPU-bound when playing games. Among all games that I have, there's only one title that hates CPU, and it's Diablo 3. There are moments where GTX680 is at <40%, while CPU is peaking. This game has one thread that does most of the work and causes CPU bottlenecks. Even BF4 and Crysis run faster 🙂 Nonetheless, I can remember how much faster 480 was compared to 285, and 680 compared to 480/580. If NV maintains such speed bump with 880, I'm getting one.
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You will bet a boost oc that monster cpu. But I agree x58 at 4ghz is good enough atm unlessl your running 3 or 4 ultra high end gpus. You probable would get a boost upgrading an x58 cpu with 2 cards 780ti titan 290 290x but I wouldn't expect miracles.
Yeah its good knowing that i can oc this cpu if i want too but atm for gaming on my card its not needed. The only problem with x58 is once you hit 4 to 4.2ghz say theres not much more oc left as thats the oc threshold for these chips generally. Although yes as we both agree 4ghz is fine for atleast one high-end Gpu.
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Is this gonna be another 680 type mid range released at a high range price?
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Is this gonna be another 680 type mid range released at a high range price?
Didn't realize the 680 was released for 700.