Nvidia GeForce GTX 870 and GTX 880 available in November
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BLEH!
Exactly. The W9100 cards rock. It would make sense for NVidia to have the 512 bus with smaller VRAM, allowing for higher speeds, I think, although whether there would be issues implementing high speeds on such a wide bus (i.e. 290X), I'm not sure.
Solfaur
I really don't like the 256bit bus, but if it's at least 15-20% faster than a 780 Ti, I will probably grab one or two custom versions like my current MSI Lightning (since I can't get used to stock cooling anymore after 2+ with these cards). It's still to early to make my judgements on this though, but at least we have something official for a change.
Denial
Because it won't scale up as well with next generation games and resolutions. Not everyone upgrades every series.
Watchdogs is like a perfect example of developers not giving a **** because they have 6+GB of ram available on consoles. Once games that actually utilize that 6GB of ram start popping up with unnecessarily large texture sizes that 256bit bus is going to **** the bed.
AcidSnow
28nm doesn't even phase me anymore. After upgrading from a 5870 (45nm) to a 290X (28nm) the size really doesn't mean jack to me - the performance increase is totally worth it. If your card is old enough that your games don't run at 60Hz, then just do the smart thing for gaming and buy the newest GPU that fits your budget: nm be damned!
Undying
Maxwell is here to be efficient, every review of 750's said that. 880 sure cant beat 780ti by alot with those specs. 15-20% tops.
Denial
The performance increase is partially from the die shrink.
I don't think Nvidia wants or needs to. They are focusing their efforts on power reduction because any improvement made to Maxwell is directly translated to next generation Tegra.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this card is another 680. It's going to be 20% faster but it's only going to be $500. Eventually if Nvidia decides 20nm is worthwhile or maybe even 16nm they'll probably refresh with a 980Ti or something.
You gotta remember we still have at least another two years until Pascal launches. They need to buy time and they aren't going to do that by releasing their full effort now.
Lane
I dont know if we can really say that Nvidia is waiting Pascal.. pascal is future series and architecture.. because at this point, we can even say they wait Einstein, and then why not the following arch.. its a non sense, because it can never end.
Maxwell was intended and is still an new architecture ( even if it is ofc an evolution of Kepler who was allready an evolution of Fermi )...
For sure, both AMD and Nvidia will have prefered been able to use the 20nm as expected if performance was good instead of work on 28nm ( HPM? ) and release their serie in 2 times with different nodes....
Well at the same time, this is a good option who is offer to them, because it allow them to release a series of GPU followed by a good performance leap on the refresh of this same architecture current 2015 ( in 16nmFinFet or 20nm well the 16nm FinFet is in reality half 20nm ).
Dellers
I'll wait for Pascal. I just hope there'll be some better processors by then. It doesn't help much having 120 Hz screens and multiple GPUs when the CPUs aren't fast enough to keep up anyway.
Denial
I didn't say they were waiting. I'm just saying that they can't just release big Maxwell now and not refresh at some point. They need to break it up so they have continuous income for the next two years.
Calmmo
Hopefully the 870 will be worth it and reasonably priced.... but it's nvidia, so it wont be 🙂
icedman
Ill wait this time till the refresh or full core arrives the 600-700 series was a joke anyone that got the 600 series got madly ripped off might just see what amd is doing.
CPC_RedDawn
CPU's are more than fast enough to keep up.
You are still using i7 950 that's a platform that was released in 2009 and its now 2014.
CPU's may not have come a very long way, but the upgrade path is still there.
I recently went from an i7 960 D0 @ 4.2GHz 12GB 1600MHz memory to my current i7 4770K @ 4.5GHz and 16GB 1866MHz memory. I have seen a pretty nice improvement in performance, at least 30-40%. Not so much in terms of maximum fps but 100% in minimum fps. Borderlands 2 maxed out dropped to around 55fps 1080p now I barely drop below 70fps using the same GPU. That is just one example.
If you really want to go SLI or Crossfire, to make the most out of it, you really need to go X79 and the enthusiast platform not the Z87 mainstream platform even though the 4770K and other Haswell chips when overclocked are more than capable of running multiple GPU's.
Denial
Disagree completely. The 600 series had excellent price vs performance.
Ven0m
I'm also satisfied with buying 680. It was a reasonable upgrade from all the previous cards.
Veteran
Ill be waiting for GM200 this time around. The 256 bit has kinda put me off tbh.
Endymion
I agree. Price vs performance was great in those times.
7xx and 2xx series top card prices was too disproportionate.
I looking forward to see how big leap would be this time.
cyberfredxxx
Hum , I m waiting for this 880 , but I dont think "normal" 880 Gtx will be faster , 20-25% , than a 780 Ti.
I d rather consider 880 Ti , 20-25% faster than 780 Ti but not the 880 Gtx.
Equinoxe
I'll wait for the 2nd gen Maxwell cards before upgrading my 780's
But that also depends on the PC games, as mostly all PC games are poorly optimized (watch dogs)
benq
Another refresh? Then i'll wait for 900 series ^^
EKRboi
Glad to kinda of hear of a releaseish date. With my recent purchase of 2 more monitors for surround my 2 580's are on their last leg for sure. I've been extremely surprised what they are able to handle at 5760x1080.. but they don't like it hah =) I NEED a couple of new gpus! What I REALLY want confirmation on is the VRAM. After watchdogs I don't want any less than 8gb per card this time to feel somewhat good about those cards for a few years. I made the huge mistake of being "that guy" who said "psh. I dont need the 3gb 580.. thats crazy"... won't make that same mistake again!
