NVIDIA Embargo Shift: GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER Reviews Delayed Until tomorrow 31st January

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Logistical challenges? Do they expect there to be an avalanche of potential sales.
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Every time the reviews embargo are so close to the release is because the performance is weak and they dont want the information out before they ship the firs 24 hours of units.
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Catspaw:

Every time the reviews embargo are so close to the release is because the performance is weak and they dont want the information out before they ship the firs 24 hours of units.
The thing here is that the information is actually already out. The specs of the card make it clear that it's gonna have virtually the same perf as the existing 4080. 4070S and 4070 Ti S can't be classified as rebrands. But this one could. This could generate some negative publicity though, so apparently this is Nvidia's attempt to mitigate this maybe?
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RealNC:

The thing here is that the information is actually already out. The specs of the card make it clear that it's gonna have virtually the same perf as the existing 4080. 4070S and 4070 Ti S can't be classified as rebrands. But this one could. This could generate some negative publicity though, so apparently this is Nvidia's attempt to mitigate this maybe?
Also maybe why they released this last.
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"Logistical challenges" as in getting units to reviewers, not stores, see emphasis: Some reviewers had received sample units of the product several days before the initially scheduled embargo date.... The postponement of the Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER model distribution to media outlets is not attributed to driver-related issues, contrary to some speculation. In other words, Hilbert don't got no FE card to review! 😛
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One thing should be clear to everybody that followed the GPU circus over the last years, the Super models are not a meaningful effort of any sort. It's simply improved GPU manufacturing due to improved processes, leading to better yields for full chips, but here in the gaming market, improved yields on partially defective chips (leaving more active SMs on even partially defective chips). And those chips end up with virtually no R&D cost to produce such "Super" lineups. They're just trying to market it as a meaningful refresh. Ever since any super models were introduced, the idea behind them always is and was the same... The question I have is, why even bother with an NDA and embargo one day before the cards release, when they always could have just picked the same day... it looks like "somebody didn't think it through" more than anything else, imho.
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Yup. The Supers are a price/performance adjustment. Nothing more. Something to tide people over for another nine to twelve months before they announce the entire Blackwell lineup. If there are any people expecting close to 4090-ish performance at half the price, they are going to be bitterly disappointed. All the leaks suggest this is going to be the nothingestburger of them all, albeit at a slightly more palatable price. Still by no means a bad card. Just not particularly attractive.
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mackintosh:

Yup. The Supers are a price/performance adjustment. Nothing more. Something to tide people over for another nine to twelve months before they announce the entire Blackwell lineup. If there are any people expecting close to 4090-ish performance at half the price, they are going to be bitterly disappointed. All the leaks suggest this is going to be the nothingestburger of them all, albeit at a slightly more palatable price. Still by no means a bad card. Just not particularly attractive.
30% less performance about half of the price of 4090 is still a good deal.
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MonsterMX99:

30% less performance about half of the price of 4090 is still a good deal.
It is a good deal in comparison to a 4090 but if we compare with everything pre crypto magic the prices are very hight .
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mackintosh:

Yup. The Supers are a price/performance adjustment. Nothing more. Something to tide people over for another nine to twelve months before they announce the entire Blackwell lineup. If there are any people expecting close to 4090-ish performance at half the price, they are going to be bitterly disappointed. All the leaks suggest this is going to be the nothingestburger of them all, albeit at a slightly more palatable price. Still by no means a bad card. Just not particularly attractive.
If that's your view then all cards since the first RTX gpu are simply a price performance adjustment. They can all render the same games after all.
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MonsterMX99:

30% less performance about half of the price of 4090 is still a good deal.
It's not. In the past, Nvidia has offered 3% less performance at 65% the price. Was it a good idea by them? I don't know. But they did offer it.
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RealNC:

It's not. In the past, Nvidia has offered 3% less performance at 65% the price.
Nvidia offered increase of 60%+ with 3080 for the same price. After that when you look at the 40 series every card in the lineup seem like a bad deal. 2080Super 699$ 3080 699$
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Undying:

Nvidia offered increase of 60%+ with 3080 for the same price. 2080Super 699$ 3080 699$
These are different generations. I was talking about cards of the same gen (in this case, 980 Ti for $650 vs Titan X for $1000.)
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Dribble:

If that's your view then all cards since the first RTX gpu are simply a price performance adjustment. They can all render the same games after all.
The point he was trying to make is that the Supers are just tuned refreshes, whereas other generations have actual architectural differences.
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There is a rumor Blackwell is getting delayed and 4090ti is also incoming later this year.
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Undying:

4090ti
I wonder if PC cases exist where it would even fit :P
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RealNC:

I wonder if PC cases exist where it would even fit 😛
Im more worried about the burning thing. That will surely pull out 600w+.
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Undying:

Nvidia offered increase of 60%+ with 3080 for the same price. After that when you look at the 40 series every card in the lineup seem like a bad deal. 2080Super 699$ 3080 699$
He is still living in cave, thats his problem lmao.

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