I'm sorry to inform you that the 1600X is ~$50 more expensive than the 7600K in my country.

If that's true, then your fellow medborgare have said "Nej tack" to Intel's highway robbery with i5, and they have bought nearly all 1600Xs, driving the price up. Because I'd find it quite unbelievable in the bigger market of Sweden the natural price would be that much higher than over here where's it's 30 euros. Unless, of course, Intel started a discount campaign in your parts. In any case, the 1600 is cheaper than the 7600k. Ryzen won't overclock like Intel, but it has 6 cores with multithreading, so, yeah.

If you had read my other posts as you have claimed, you would know that I was considering going with Ryzen, but changed my mind and who gave you the deciding power of who gets banned or maybe you are a mod in which case a rude on at that?

You're an odd one. Who said i have the power to ban people? I said you should be banned. And again, you made your choice, deal with your choice and stop purposefully causing arguments with troll posts. It's not that hard to get.

I'd upgrade to Ryzen platform if I could right now.They smash the 3930k at multi-threading.For a PC gamer it's a great value.

I'd upgrade to Ryzen platform if I could right now.They smash the 3930k at multi-threading.

R7 does but R5 does not so you are fine.

R7 does but R5 does not so you are fine.

Lol! Thanks for the reassurance! :thumbup:

The game benchmarks speak for themselves, it's on pair and beats the 1800X (8c/16t) which is close to $300 more expensive in my country and oc like crap, aka. "frying pans from hell" unlike my i5-7600K (4c/4t) so me choosing the i5 was out of an economic standpoint since Ryzen 5 is utter **** and would have been a downgrade from my previous i7-2600K while Ryzen 7 for being hugely overly priced and me not wanting to wait a full year for some supposedly microcode updates and new games to arrive before I get my values worth out of my system, please, why is it that as soon as you criticize AMD (keep in mind I've got an AMD graphics card in my system) you get attacked and shutdown by fanboys? Source: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-processor-review

I'm sorry, what was the purpose of you coming into this thread and post this nonsense? The only thing you are doing, just like the other threads you have done this in, is showing how little you know about anything, and trying to start arguments where there was none. This entire thread had nothing to do with AMD vs Intel, but you just decided for no reason at all to start that argument, why? What is your purpose? Or is your only purpose on these forums, like a lot of newer/low post count users recently, to start BS, specifically aimed at AMD? The amount of people recently, like you, doing this is astounding. It really does make me wonder if intel has decided to invade forums, or if their brainwashing is really that strong. So again, what is your purpose, in THIS THREAD, to the topic at hand, which has nothing to do with Intel vs AMD?

You're an odd one. Who said i have the power to ban people? I said you should be banned. And again, you made your choice, deal with your choice and stop purposefully causing arguments with troll posts. It's not that hard to get.

It really depends on the workload you plan. If your main concerns are gaming, Light photoshop and general office tasks Intel is still king (for now). Photoshop https://www.pugetsystems.com/pic_disp.php?id=42028&width=701 Lightroom https://www.pugetsystems.com/pic_disp.php?id=42012&width=651 Also general office tasks. http://www.anandtech.com/show/11170/the-amd-zen-and-ryzen-7-review-a-deep-dive-on-1800x-1700x-and-1700/21 And general web based workloads http://www.anandtech.com/show/11170/the-amd-zen-and-ryzen-7-review-a-deep-dive-on-1800x-1700x-and-1700/19 Now I would imagine these situations will improve over time with Ryzen gaining market share. OT: Considering the Battlebox is intended as a gaming rig (and prebuilts don't usually use high quality RAM) Intel would be the safer bet FOR NOW. Though I is a very positive bit of news seeing Nvidia putting Ryzen as an option for their branded pre-built.

I'm sorry to inform you that the 1600X is ~$50 more expensive than the 7600K in my country.

I found this statement pretty interesting, so I decided to take a quick look at one of your better known computer hardware stores. AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Processor: 2470 kr AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Processor: 2798 kr Intel Core i5-7600K Kaby Lake Processor: 2989 kr I'm not overly familiar with Sweden, so I'm not entirely sure what other stores are available. I did check www.komplett.se which had similar prices, the 7600K was a little cheaper than the 1600X but more expensive than the 1600, which would perform just as well. It's the same story at https://www.webhallen.com/. Interesting how things are priced in Sweden compared to other parts of the world. That said, I wouldn't personally buy an i5 at this point in time. I'd either spend the extra on an i7 or go for a 1600 +. In current games there's not a lot of difference between them really, but I like to get the most out of my hardware and I'd feel more comfortable with more threads going forward.

Some here need to learn to just ignore people that say something to get a reaction. If you ignore them they get bored and move on.

I'd upgrade to Ryzen platform if I could right now.They smash the 3930k at multi-threading.For a PC gamer it's a great value.

Im in the exact some boat with my 3930k. My buddy just got a regular 1600 Ryzen. 16GB DDR4 2400, and a B370 board. He was on a i7 3820 @ 4.5ghz, 12GB DDR3 1333, and MSI X79. I cant wait to benchmark both against each other when he comes over tomorrow. Gonna use his Fury X.

I find it funny that post #2 in this thread is mostly inaccurate while post #4 is pure flamebait....which is supported by it's poster using mostly false information. I mean, seriously.... A Ryzen 1800 is a downgrade from an i7 2600K (which the Ryzen 1800 outperforms in most scenarios) but an i5 7600K is an upgrade, even though the i7 2600K manages to outperform it in heavily multi-threaded scenarios....as does the Ryzen 1800... Of course, once overclocked, Intel's processors start running into thermal issues. Try to overclock Kabylake on the stock HSF and see how long it survives. Seems the R5 1600 doesn't require watercooling or insanely large/heavy heatpipe coolers to remain usable....but why should we allow facts to get in the way?

Unless you are not familiar at all with PC market, imo, pre-built PC's is and will be a niche. Highly overpriced niche at that.

The "boutique" or "near-custom" segment of the pre-built market is niche. The pre-built market itself accounts for the majority of the PC market, as someone else stated. Pre-builts, outside of "boutique" builders, are generally lower priced than what we'd pay to build a similar system. Companies like Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc get rather large discounts due to the quantity of components ordered.

I was on topic, but you were the first to ask to have me banned from the forums for asking people to think twice before making a purchase and I explain my reasoning to Undying, but you had to get personal, please, get back to topic.

You were not on-topic at all. You posted a bait. There was no reasoning of any kind in your original post. All you have done here is annoy people. On purpose. Therefor a banning request is warranted.

Face-palm. Came in to have a look at what this Battlebox was all about and walk into yet another poo. Anyway, this kind of product obviously isn't for most people here. However, PC gaming needs products like these to get new people into it. The desktop market is in decline and needs a boost. This product might be someone's ideal first gaming PC. It just so happens to be an Nvidia branded one. Look at it with fresh eyes, rather than a veteran.

I hope the ones who're considering buying a BattleBox will come to their senses and pick an Intel CPU.

it's different but at the end it's more or less the same... it's like religion or politic :banana: but at least with CPU you can play with it

Unless you are not familiar at all with PC market, imo, pre-built PC's is and will be a niche. Highly overpriced niche at that.

Most gaming machine sold are prebuild one despite the price ... most team "play" (work doesn't fit there 🙂 ) on prebuild machine and so fan do the same. MSI and Asus have them at 1st page of their web site, mother board and GPU are not. High performance to build machine are niche.

not really a niche. since i left to work in another country 10y ago, none of my friends/relatives upgraded their existing rig, but just bought a new pc with 780/970/10xx... its so funny how ppl always say its too expensive, but we dont do everything ourselves. most dont grow veggies/bake their own bread/fix their own car, but go somewhere and pay someone to do it for them. why shouldnt that be possible for computers? price is more or less irrelevant, as its the same with everything else: ppl that have the money and want something (whatever item), they will buy it. e.g. i dont change the oil on my car, but drop it off to a shop, and work while its being done, making more money than (not working and) doin it myself.

not really a niche. since i left to work in another country 10y ago, none of my friends/relatives upgraded their existing rig, but just bought a new pc with 780/970/10xx... its so funny how ppl always say its too expensive, but we dont do everything ourselves. most dont grow veggies/bake their own bread/fix their own car, but go somewhere and pay someone to do it for them. why shouldnt that be possible for computers? price is more or less irrelevant, as its the same with everything else: ppl that have the money and want something (whatever item), they will buy it. e.g. i dont change the oil on my car, but drop it off to a shop, and work while its being done, making more money than (not working and) doin it myself.

Wish I could get away with that. Seems every time I ask the guys at work to change my oil while I'm fixing the computers, they give me this odd look like I'm supposed to change my own oil while fixing the computers....the nerve of some people...... For every product, there is a buyer. For every buyer, there is a product. It's supply and demand. If NVidia didn't think there would be some sort of demand for this, they wouldn't be attempting to supply it....

Wow. Great way to troll and start a flamebait argument. You should be banned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc2L3L4E73g Not a big deal Ryzen with a 1080 ti ? But ryzen is a good processor . 6700k and R 1700 tested with same the same ram speed .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc2L3L4E73g Not a big deal Ryzen with a 1080 ti ? But ryzen is a good processor . 6700k and R 1700 tested with same the same ram speed .

I'm not sure i understand the point to your post. If your point is that ryzen performs less in many games at 1080p, this is a topic already discussed well more then enough. More over, why would you get a 1080ti and play at 1080p? 1440p and there won't be a difference (99% of the time) Not saying you couldn't get 1080ti and play at 1080p, but realistically, at that point, you are complaining about 1-20fps loss, when you are generally in the hundreds of FPS, and would likely rarely ever go below 60fps with the exception of a select few games that run horribly for everyone....