Nvidia B200 Blackwell Accelerator Card Set for 2025 Release Could See 1000W Power Consumption

fantaskarsef

2024-03-04 10:03

What to take away from that, for me: - uses 1kW power, so be ready to consider 2x 12VHPWR plugs on future top line gaming cards (and going for a 450W power draw over each), or go with 6 to 8 PCIe power cables... 🙄 - does not come until 2025, so be ready to see a top line gaming card not before that, but after it (so probably H2 2025) - watch it cost more than the 4090, if only by 50€, just to prove a point ("But materials have gotten more expensive and the Huthis are shooting at ships!")

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k3vst3r

2024-03-04 10:45

Saw article other day saying Ai data centres power requirements in next decade is heading for 1000x current levels of power demand, talks of building new data centres around mini sized nuclear reactors. Highly likely the next generation of card after this probably be 1500w or 2k watts per card.

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Venix

2024-03-04 11:24

fantaskarsef:

What to take away from that, for me: - uses 1kW power, so be ready to consider 2x 12VHPWR plugs on future top line gaming cards (and going for a 450W power draw over each), or go with 6 to 8 PCIe power cables... 🙄 - does not come until 2025, so be ready to see a top line gaming card not before that, but after it (so probably H2 2025) - watch it cost more than the 4090, if only by 50€, just to prove a point ("But materials have gotten more expensive and the Huthis are shooting at ships!")

I do not think 1000 watts consumer cards are in the books ... Except if Nvidia lost its marbles .

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Krizby

2024-03-04 11:26

As long as Blackwell is 60% more efficient than Ada, I couldn't care less if Blackwell can use 10kW

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mackintosh

2024-03-04 11:33

B200 is the successor to the B100, so this is whatever is going to replace the 5090 in 2025, unless they go the Super route again.

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rl66

2024-03-04 11:33

For pro use it is 500/600 W too much... as it is 24/24 7/7 use.

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rl66

2024-03-04 11:40

Venix:

I do not think 1000 watts consumer cards are in the books ... Except if Nvidia lost its marbles .

If you have part, the last result is good but is questioning too...

#6212813

BLEH!

2024-03-04 13:07

This is probably why some datacentres are planning on getting their own dedicated small nuclear reactors for power...

#6212823

Undying

2024-03-04 13:39

I bet consumer blackwell card wont be that much far from that.

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Silva

2024-03-04 13:47

Power usage is getting out of hand. I see (and hope) the EU will regulate this in the future or soon we will need a home nuclear reactor just to power this madness.

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AuerX

2024-03-04 14:19

20 amp outlets and breakers in my studio. Good to go.

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AuerX

2024-03-04 14:23

Silva:

Power usage is getting out of hand. I see (and hope) the EU will regulate this in the future or soon we will need a home nuclear reactor just to power this madness.

It's been out of hand ever since we started toasting bread. Not to mention drying hair. 2-slice bread toasters are usually rated between 800 and 1500 Watts with an average rating of 1200 Watts. 4-slice bread toasters are somewhat larger and stronger and they average 1400 Watts. Were doomed. Hopefully some regulation is incoming soon to fix this catastrophic situation.

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mackintosh

2024-03-04 14:36

If you ran either 24/7 you bet someone would regulate it.

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AuerX

2024-03-04 14:43

mackintosh:

If you ran either 24/7 you bet someone would regulate it.

So why regulate a gaming GPU?

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fantaskarsef

2024-03-04 15:18

AuerX:

So why regulate a gaming GPU?

Because on average it probably has a usage time differing to a toaster of about the factor of ten. Or 60, depending (2x2 toasts in the morning, 5 minutes, vs. 5 hours of gaming a day). Let's ask them again why our vacuum cleaners have had a major downgrade a few years ago, when I bought one of the last 2000W vacuums before they were limited to 1600W.

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schmidtbag

2024-03-04 15:56

Silva:

Power usage is getting out of hand. I see (and hope) the EU will regulate this in the future or soon we will need a home nuclear reactor just to power this madness.

It's a datacenter GPU - you're not expected to have just one in a single system, let alone the whole room. This may be power hungry but I'm sure it's got better performance-per-watt than just about anything else with comparable potential.

fantaskarsef:

Let's ask them again why our vacuum cleaners have had a major downgrade a few years ago, when I bought one of the last 2000W vacuums before they were limited to 1600W.

Wow 2000W vacuum? The hose on that thing must be able to rip carpet right off the floor. Kind of ironic how European countries are restricting wattage, considering their typical household wall outlets can handle much higher wattages. The type A/B outlets usually (not always, before someone nitpicks me...) peak at 1500W, so even your downgraded vacuum would trip a lot of circuit breakers. So, for many of us in 120V New World countries, there wouldn't even be an incentive to legally restrict wattage because we're already limited by what the outlets can handle. When it comes to gaming GPUs, I don't see Nvidia going a whole lot higher than they are now.

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H83

2024-03-04 16:04

It might be worth it to datacenters, for them overall effiency is more important than power usage, and if one of those can replace two older ones, then even better. As for future gaming GPUs, i can see Nvidia releasing something that uses around 500w, not much more than that, i hope...

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Gomez Addams

2024-03-04 16:10

schmidtbag:

It's a datacenter GPU - you're not expected to have just one in a single system, let alone the whole room. This may be power hungry but I'm sure it's got better performance-per-watt than just about anything else with comparable potential. Wow 2000W vacuum? The hose on that thing must be able to rip carpet right off the floor. Kind of ironic how European countries are restricting wattage, considering their typical household wall outlets can handle much higher wattages. The type A/B outlets usually (not always, before someone nitpicks me...) peak at 1500W, so even your downgraded vacuum would trip a lot of circuit breakers. So, for many of us in 120V New World countries, there wouldn't even be an incentive to legally restrict wattage because we're already limited by what the outlets can handle. When it comes to gaming GPUs, I don't see Nvidia going a whole lot higher than they are now.

In the USA, the standard outlet is on a 15A breaker so that makes it 1800W - (120V * 15A) for that circuit.

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Gomez Addams

2024-03-04 16:12

AuerX:

It's been out of hand ever since we started toasting bread. Not to mention drying hair. 2-slice bread toasters are usually rated between 800 and 1500 Watts with an average rating of 1200 Watts. 4-slice bread toasters are somewhat larger and stronger and they average 1400 Watts. Were doomed. Hopefully some regulation is incoming soon to fix this catastrophic situation.

Several states have passed regulations on this topic already like CA, VT, IL, WA, OR. Computers with a 1000W are not allowed, for example. However, you can buy a 1000W PSU and assemble it yourself.

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AuerX

2024-03-04 16:14

If EU regulates GPU's it only means they get weaker GPU's than the countries that don't. There will be different models for different places, based on the laws..